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Very well.
I understand that he contacted other breeders too ... so it's obvious he has access to this database. I'm also waiting to find out what he really intends to, but that will be off course just personal conclusions of everyone of us. |
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to buy a rare breed for the whole attention of breeding means only one thing to me ![]() |
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yes that is true is that why ronnie winder refused to sell you a CVS and you then went to another breeder and got one, if this guy refused you a cvs he must of had dam good reason for when he vetted me it took 6 weeks and he even came to see my home and where i was going to keep my dog......
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is what why? i still have his emails,and i have nothing to hide...he kept changing his mind as to why(i have my own conclusions).....but also,the breeder i went to i had known previously for a few years,knew i was telling the truth and i would stand by my word..and i have...and i couldnt be happier with my dog :-) why the animosity? |
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When someone is banned from forum is it ok so make another screen name to post under?
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The same heroic breeder who fought to save the breed from the evil DEFRA law was able to sell a dog mixed with her American Wolf to Germany not long ago. He introduced the breed in UK with De Louba Tar & co dogs for after a fight (and only after it) he comes up pointing the finger for this breeder because of abused dogs due horrible conditions of the kennel and mixes by her. But the best was the history of Tamaskans & Northern Inuit dogs, some friends of this reputable heroic UK breeder showed up at this forum or let its footprints at his webpage, we soon realize that they were all breeders of the most pure and with no wolf content Tamaskans and Northern Inuit dogs, even if we all suspected that some of these "tamaskans" were or mixes of CzW and Saarloos or even pure animals, soon after DEFRA change all these breeder - before completely against wolf content in their dogs - changed their webpages to breeder of multiple breeds, including SWH and CzW, togheter with wolf mixes, Tamaskan and some other "wolfy breeds". We can imagine the size of the problem it caused not only to CzW and SwH but to Tamaskan and Northern Inuit Breed as well. Without comment about the behave of this very heroic and reputable breeder at this forum. As you can see it was a quite "magical" and "funny time". At this forum we were gifted with some pearls coming from the madness of this heroic breeder. ![]() At the end wolfdog people had enough of him at the point to whish DEFRA never had changed the law. Thanks to him good breeders are mainly reluctant to send dogs to UK. PS: The funny thing, if not deceive me, is that the same heroic breeder said to everyone that he had special license to have these dogs and mixes. ![]()
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the guy who introduced the cvs to uk sold his home in uk to go live in europe to learn and be with wolfdogs, he owned pure wolves in Ireland from the age of 15, when he got the cvs to uk he had to move house and hide his dogs from the authorities, he risked twice being sent to jail because he hid his wolfdogs and would not tell where they where, he took a cvs to crufts in 2003 and got it in the back door to try and promote the breed, his home has been raided by the authorities 4 times over the years trying to get his dogs, he took on defra and in 2008 got the law in uk changed so now you all can have wolfdogs, all this was done so this guy could own a CZECHOSLOVAKIAN WOLFDOG, you just you just nipped down the road when all the work was done and purchased one from another breeder because the guy would not sell you one,,, are you a trusted person to contact in uk????
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![]() wot ,so its 'your dogs better than mine' because who bred it? lol you know nothing about me or my dogs...........you have to trust the breeder as well as the breeder trust the new owner,goes both ways.so what i went to another breeder,that does not make me untrustworthy. anyway...sound jealous much?. |
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Why if they loved the breed so much and went through all that effort fighting to have them removed from the DWAL, would they then cross them with wolves etc?
What possible good could/has it had for the csv breed, both here in the uk and as a whole? Or, is it just a case of supply and demand? Oh and has it occured to you that perhaps the reason why other people haven't imported already, is because they might want a puppy, as opposed to a juvinile or adult. P.s. Tupac's owner is the kind of person I want to see breeding in this country, there might be some hope for the breed here then. As it stands, all I see now is a mess, that needs cleaning up. Taz
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You're on the same wavelength as I am, Tazer
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So we agree on one thing. 'Happyfeet' about encouraging understanding of the breed.
....Oh so now my Tupac is a cross is he...how convinient ![]() And where have I ever said I would breed him? Last edited by tupacs2legs; 11-09-2011 at 14:59. |
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2. Tupacs2leg's attitude towards the breed here, for example wanting them to be bred pure and to be established as a breed in their own right, was what I was refering to with the remark I made. If you had bothered to stop and think that the comment had more meaning than the one you assigned to it, you would've understood that. 3. She knows what I think of her boys breeder infact, there're probably few people who've got me on the subject who don't understand what I think of it. 4. I absolutely agree with you ref education and understanding of the breed being most needed here and yes, not all owners want to breed thankfully. Its just most unfortunate that the one's who do, seem to want to breed them with what evers easiest to get hold of. Taz
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I saw an ad earlier today. The sire was a pure csv apparently, the dam was a csv x northern inuit.
Males were 750 quid The female was...1000 quid. Absolute madness. Taz
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