Short coat defect

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by hanninadina

My personal experience is that the italian dogs have more coat than the rest of the "pack". Funny thing is that in italy it is not so called like in the rest of middle/northern countries. So they managed to breed more the long coated wolfish looks. That looks from my point of view nicer. The only problem is that these dogs "suffer" more in the heat of the summer. But czechoslovakian wolfdogs does not change so "dramatically" their coat like wolves do. You see of course differences, but Wolves got in winter much more coat than in comparison a csw. I do not talk about expception which surely exist in csw world too.

First - we should make distinction between "is" and "should be"....

You wrote about better coat of the Italian dogs. But take a look on the QUALITY of the coat. Long & thick coat do not mean at the same time "wolfish" and "typical".
I don't want to blame Italian dogs because there are many very nice typical dogs but everybody knows that some kennels there were trying to make "furry" Wolfdogs. But it doesn't worked fine - instead to select the "wolfish" coat the breeders made selection for "longhaired" dogs and the result are dogs which have nice but not typical coat because they selected for the genes comming from the longhaired German Shepherds.
ONLY such longhaired dogs do not shed in the winter and ONLY such wolfdogs surfer in the summer.

Second similar case is the "Husky" coat - some breeder selected dogs which have coat similar to the huskies - such dogs do not have long coat like "longhaired" Wolfdogs but thick and "standing" (the difference is mosty visible on the back legs). They look nice but also: such dogs do not shed properly and do not have typical "wolfish" coat...


"Typical" Wolfdogs shed a lot and there is really huge difference between winter and summer coat. It is really nice visible for example in Slovakia on the dog shows because in the winter the dogs stay outside in the kennels so they live in the similar conditions as the wolves. And if you compare the winter and summer coat of such dogs you will see that the difference is really HUGE. In Poland, Germany and many other countries there difference is not so great visible because the dogs stay at homes and the difference of the temperatures between in the winter (at home) and in the summer (at home) is very small...

[Morian]

about adoptation. if we have one more summer like this... i'm even afraid to imagine

my guy, winter:



spring:



july :



he even has some places with absolutely bare skin, it's not seen on the photo...

[GalomyOak]

Taabernakkelin Jovice in summer:
http://picasaweb.google.com/galomyoa...12176438978786
and winter:
http://picasaweb.google.com/galomyoa...39582730456066

Taabernakkelin Hronsek is the same.

Anthea od Vlci Skaly has a shorter coat - it becomes very thick in winter, but not as long. Her coat also isn't quite as waterproof as the above 2, she takes a bit longer to dry, but nothing like my GSD.

I am curious to see how the coat of Wasabogoa will be - he was still going through puppy coat changes last winter.

Adams Morgan has a coat much like his dad.

[Dacota]

Dacota in winter:



this is the summer coat:


you can see a big difference. And I must add, that all my dogs sleep in the house at night!

[Silvester]

Sorry "Dacota" - but where do you see a BIG difference ?

I can only see a quite small difference - especially if you compare these pictures with the other photos from above !

A real big difference one can see by my example from "Emba" or by the pics of "Morian"and "GalomyOak".

Originally posted by "Dacota":
"And I must add, that all my dogs sleep in the house at night!"

Yeah, this might be the reason for NOT so big difference!

Nice sunday to everyone !

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Well, I can see a big difference.

Ina

[Dacota]

Originally Posted by Silvester

NOT so big difference!

What? Dacota has the coat like the guy from "Morian" in winter. I must know this at the best She has very much coat in winter and very short coat in the summer time. Maybe the photos doesn't show how it really is or you need glasses

Originally Posted by Dacota

What? Dacota has the coat like the guy from "Morian" in winter. I must know this at the best She has very much coat in winter and very short coat in the summer time. Maybe the photos doesn't show how it really is or you need glasses

I think it's the angle of the photo, it's kind of hard to see. If you take a closer look, though, you notice it. I think if it were more of a side view the difference would come out better.

Thanks so much to everyone posting photos! I really love seeing the differences, especially when taking things like living situations into account.

[Silvester]

I´m sorry again ,but the dog "Dacota" is looking on the "winter -picture" like the others in summer coat...

Originally poted by "Dacota":
"Maybe the photos doesn't show how it really is ..."

That might be - why you don´t make public here some more - and may be better - photos ?