'Wolfdogs' of unknown origin - CzW or not?

Margo · 18-08-2008, 23:02

Hot disscusion - I hope I will finish it...

Because of the problems with Mutaras, 'S' Passo del Lupo and some other breeders which do not understand what "purebreed dog breeding" means the Slovakian Club decided:

It will be not possible for Slovakian breeders to cover with males or register ANY dogs where there is no full pedigree till the beginn of the breed on the 80-ties.
What it means? Slovakian Club decided that the dog writen on register in Italy (LIR), France ("titre initial"), Germany (VDH R) or in any other country are considered to be not PUREBREED Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs. For example all "S" Passo del Lupo offsprings will be banned by the Slovakian Club EVEN if one of the S-Passo del Lupo dogs will be in 20, 40 or 50 generation.
We have rumors that the Czech Club will make the same steps...

Because we also think it is the only way to protect the breed we will help the people (breeders and owners) to "separate the wheat from the chaff" - in the new database ALL "register" dogs (and ALL THEIR OFFSPRINGS) will be marked red and the information will be showed that according the Slovakian CzW Club there is big doubt if the specific dog is purebreed CzW...
So if you are thinking about buying of one of the "mixes" - please think twice about it before it is too late...

Nebelwölfe · 24-08-2008, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Margo

.. in the new database ALL "register" dogs (and ALL THEIR OFFSPRINGS) will be marked red and the information will be showed that according the Slovakian CzW Club there is big doubt if the specific dog is purebreed CzW...

Even if a DNA-test can prove clearly, that the registered dog stems from purebreed parents?

Petra

Nebulosa · 24-08-2008, 20:03

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Originally Posted by littlepeet

Even if a DNA-test can prove clearly, that the registered dog stems from purebreed parents?

Petra

If a DNA exam proof that Y dog have parents with pedigree, commonly the breeder or the owner can make the pedigree of the dog.

Nebelwölfe · 24-08-2008, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Nebulosa

If a DNA exam proof that Y dog have parents with pedigree, commonly the breeder or the owner can make the pedigree of the dog.

If the owner does it, before or when the pupps are born, yes. But it is not possible later any more...

Nebulosa · 24-08-2008, 22:58

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Originally Posted by littlepeet

If the owner does it, before or when the pupps are born, yes. But it is not possible later any more...

That depend a lot of the rules of your kennel, in CBKC and some others too, this is completly possible.

Nebelwölfe · 24-08-2008, 23:30

Unfortunately not at VDH - the German Kennel Club. Here you can only register - even if you can prove parentship by DNA.

farena · 04-09-2008, 15:19

Hello,

Sorry, but I don´t understand what you want to explain. Could you give us more explanations about your statement, please.

humbert · 24-08-2008, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Margo

For example all "S" Passo del Lupo offsprings will be banned by the Slovakian Club EVEN if one of the S-Passo del Lupo dogs will be in 20, 40 or 50 generation.

this is surely good luck

Bye
Silvia&Gusie PDL

04-09-2008, 15:19	#7
farena Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Barcelona Posts: 16	Hello Hello, Sorry, but I don´t understand what you want to explain. Could you give us more explanations about your statement, please.

18-08-2008, 23:02	#1
Margo Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Późna Posts: 1,281	Hot disscusion - I hope I will finish it... Because of the problems with Mutaras, 'S' Passo del Lupo and some other breeders which do not understand what "purebreed dog breeding" means the Slovakian Club decided: It will be not possible for Slovakian breeders to cover with males or register ANY dogs where there is no full pedigree till the beginn of the breed on the 80-ties. What it means? Slovakian Club decided that the dog writen on register in Italy (LIR), France ("titre initial"), Germany (VDH R) or in any other country are considered to be not PUREBREED Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs. For example all "S" Passo del Lupo offsprings will be banned by the Slovakian Club EVEN if one of the S-Passo del Lupo dogs will be in 20, 40 or 50 generation. We have rumors that the Czech Club will make the same steps... Because we also think it is the only way to protect the breed we will help the people (breeders and owners) to "separate the wheat from the chaff" - in the new database ALL "register" dogs (and ALL THEIR OFFSPRINGS) will be marked red and the information will be showed that according the Slovakian CzW Club there is big doubt if the specific dog is purebreed CzW... So if you are thinking about buying of one of the "mixes" - please think twice about it before it is too late...

24-08-2008, 23:30	#6
Nebelwölfe Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: am Hochrhein Posts: 771	Unfortunately not at VDH - the German Kennel Club. Here you can only register - even if you can prove parentship by DNA.