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Old 07-07-2011, 22:03   #1
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I was looking at the results' list of the official webpage and I wonder, who sent the samples of Iran to make the DM tests?
I also think he is DM/N but I hadn't time yet to even talk with Daniela about the possibilitie of send the samples of my dogs to make the tests.
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I was looking at the results' list of the official webpage and I wonder, who sent the samples of Iran to make the DM tests?
I also think he is DM/N but I hadn't time yet to even talk with Daniela about the possibilitie of send the samples of my dogs to make the tests.
Is it possible someone made an assumption based on his offspring? I am being lazy and haven't looked at the list just now.

But, for instance was he bred to a female N/N, and they made puppies who were both N/N and DM/N? According to DNA rules by many places, it is ok to make this assumption without a test.
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Old 07-07-2011, 22:51   #3
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Is it possible someone made an assumption based on his offspring? I am being lazy and haven't looked at the list just now.

But, for instance was he bred to a female N/N, and they made puppies who were both N/N and DM/N? According to DNA rules by many places, it is ok to make this assumption without a test.
yes : Jolly z Molu and Harmonia Eden severu are NN
Jolly have puppy with Iran DM/N ( who are tested) Harmonia have two NN, and Ibona Radov dvor are too NN.
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Old 07-07-2011, 23:18   #4
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Is it possible someone made an assumption based on his offspring? I am being lazy and haven't looked at the list just now.

But, for instance was he bred to a female N/N, and they made puppies who were both N/N and DM/N? According to DNA rules by many places, it is ok to make this assumption without a test.
Yes, I think so, but if's this who add is being unfair with my dogs! why only Iran? We also know in this way that Jezebeth is DM/N because Jolly is N/N and Baron DM/DM.
I will only wonder about Mona (which can be DM/N or N/N as her brother is N/N) and Oskar.
If we start to put the results like that Mijke will need to add a new classification at the list.
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Old 07-07-2011, 23:26   #5
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Yes, I think so, but if's this who add is being unfair with my dogs! why only Iran? We also know in this way that Jezebeth is DM/N because Jolly is N/N and Baron DM/DM.
I will only wonder about Mona (which can be DM/N or N/N as her brother is N/N) and Oskar.
If we start to put the results like that Mijke will need to add a new classification at the list.
yes exactly - maybe better make news signs like "this dogs can be this when hes - parents/child - are this or this N?
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:00   #6
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Chett Maly Bysterec is N/N, whit test

Obra Arimminum is N/N, from eligo and ambra all two N/N

so all the litter L and N from kennel Lupi del Montale are N/N


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I think it would be correct to post results of parents/offspring based on the knowledge of test results of offspring/parents only if parentage tests were performed and positive. Otherwise it is always only assumption and can be easily misused (like the fake pedigrees). Or, in case of widely-used studs (dams) it may be posted, but separately, and saying clearly that these are not results of DNA tests, only assumption.
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Below is the policy for the OFFA on genetics. Please note, it is ok to list a first generation dog as "clear by parentage" (marked with "CBP" in official results) if both parents have been tested. OFFA will only give this to first generation dogs, recognizing that our science is still limited and mutations are possible. They require testing for the next generations.
http://offa.org/cbp.html
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Old 08-07-2011, 15:39   #9
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Default assumption

if someone wont to do some assumption of berseker z peronowki:
jolly z molu es :N/N mum
botis z peronowki :N/N brother
ezar del montale : N/N son


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