Puppy prices (not only in UK)

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Originally Posted by Pavel

Please, dont forget, that its absolutely freedom of breeder, which prices setting. When have no problems and selling the puppies for this prices, then is everything OK.

That's right. It is typical not only for Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs but for almost every breed: the price is saying nothing about the quality of puppies. It is just a number dictated by the breeder and depenting on many other things.
Some breeders will count everything: all costs connected with the litter and on this basis they calculate the price, and sometimes you will find very poor quality puppies for a very high price.
Some breeders them set the price on other basis. And you can buy very promissing puppies for a normal price.

It's as Pavel wrote - if a breeder is really good, if he is doing a lot for the dogs and for the breed: if he is importing the best lines, showing the dogs, working with them, if he choose the best stud dogs for his females, he will never be able to make profit. Just small example - some breeders from West Europe visit the summer camps in origin countries, some of them make the bonitations there. Should they add the costs of accommodation to the costs of the litter? It would make the prices horrible expensive.

So the truth is - the price is just simple number. I heard about breeders of Golden Retrievers (now I forgot but I think they live in Holland). They have one of the best kennels and also one of the most famous one. But they are selling the puppies for a low prices (attainable for everyone). But there is something else: not everyone can buy/get a puppy from them (even if you will offer some thousands of EUR). If you want a puppy you must offer something more than just a money and a "good home" and they must like you...

And I think it makes sense. Now I really unterstand their strategy. It applies also for Wolfdogs - if you have a lot of costs you will never be able to cover them selling the puppies. Because you will never be able to find 6-12 good owners if you ask the price 1500-2000 Eur or more... at least not in Europe. So you will have to sell them for a normal price. And in this case in really doesn't matter of you ask 200-300 EUR more or less. You always incur a loos and it doesn't matter if your loss will be higher by ~1000 EURo...

Originally Posted by Pavel

Most problematic is the other extreme, when "breeder" selling the puppy for very very low prices or give free of charge (yes, such cases we just know). Its a signal, that something is not OK. But high price, I mean, is OK.

I think both cases are OK. If someone want to give his puppies for free? Why not? Only one thing is important: that the puppies will go to good homes; to responsible owners.

You mention the case with the puppies for free. I think it is the best example that the high price really doesn't matter; it doesn't help with anything. That it has nothing to do with selecting a good owner: three of those puppies went to Poland. One was buyied for a normal price. Two of them were given away for free. The last two puppies found great homes. You can meet them on meetings, dog shows, a.s.o. The puppy, which has been buyied was sold later to nowhere...

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But back to the UK....

Susanna & Gianluca are right - the prices in Europe are much lower and there is no problem to get a very promissing puppy for 500-600 EUR in East Europe, or for 900-1000 EUR in West Europe. (I specially don't write "from Champion parents" because sometimes such puppies has really nothing to do with "promissing puppies" ).
But on the other hand the price asked by Paul and Mandy (£2000) is nothing special in UK.

Everyone who want to choose the first solution have to find a breeder who will be ready for keeping the puppy 10 months long. Who will be ready to make all these paperwork. And don't forget: 10 months is a very long time for a CzW. After all you will get an young dog who will not feel as a member of your pack...

...or...

...you can pay more a get a puppy from Paul. In this case you don't need to care for anything: you will get good sozialized puppy which you can bring up as you want.

I really don't understand the whole quarrel about the prices. If you don't want to overcome all problems connected with importing the puppy you can buy the puppy from Paul. The result will be: there will be another (good) owner in UK.
If you think £2000 is to much you can import a puppy from Europe. The result will be: there will be new blood imported to UK.
In both cases the english CzW population will profit from it....