Stud fees

[Morian]

and sorry, let me start little offtopic here
dear owners of stud males and breeding females, do you ask for health tests before mating? i mean tests for sexually transmitted diseases like mycoplasma, herpes, staphilococcus, streptococcus, ureaplasma etc.?

[Morian]

will anybody answer to this (or i start feel crazy with such requirements )?

Originally Posted by Morian

do you ask for health tests before mating? i mean tests for sexually transmitted diseases like mycoplasma, herpes, staphilococcus, streptococcus, ureaplasma etc.?

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Morian

will anybody answer to this (or i start feel crazy with such requirements )?

I am not a breeder but talking to other US breeders (not for CsV), many require the results of Brucellosis for any potential cross.

[mijke]

Originally Posted by Morian

and sorry, let me start little offtopic here dear owners of stud males and breeding females, do you ask for health tests before mating? i mean tests for sexually transmitted diseases like mycoplasma, herpes, staphilococcus, streptococcus, ureaplasma etc.?

Originally Posted by Morian

will anybody answer to this (or i start feel crazy with such requirements )?

No you are not crazy!

In my country for some breeds (and breed clubs) this is more common to ask But for CsW I did not hear this question before!

But before mating I always did test my females for such diseases (also CsW) , but did not ask this for males when it was not usual in club rules or the breed community

And for mating prices in my country:
Normally it is about the price of one puppy (although some breeders do ask more)
All sportive hobby breeders (in several breeds) in my country ask € 100 for each living pup with 2 weeks with a max of the puppy price! (so the risk is for female and male owner)
And for me this is a normal sportive and honest rule .

But there are also CsW owners in my country who ask the max price to pay with covering. When the female is empty, you can come back one time. When she is empty again you have bad luck….

But when Dutch female owners go to other countries for covering it is a much different story!! Even in CZ and SK sometimes huge prices are/were asked for females of abroad! Sometimes even after a female was covered the male owner did ask much more cash money than was agreed before

But…. I never did agree with (for me un sportive or strange) covering rules of breeders in CZ , SK and other countries (for female of my own or of others), and so I know only sportive and honest breeders who did cover females of West Europe

[Morian]

Originally Posted by mijke

No you are not crazy!

i am, i am...

In my country for some breeds (and breed clubs) this is more common to ask But for CsW I did not hear this question before!

very strange. i heard about many cases of herpes, for example. when whole litters died, when males couldn't "make" pups, when females got ill after covering... i mean csv of course.

But before mating I always did test my females for such diseases (also CsW) , but did not ask this for males when it was not usual in club rules or the breed community

hope russian people will not read it i tested my male before he covered his first bitch. he was healthy. then the bitch remained empty... but my male got some surprise when i repeated the same tests later(i did it because all i heard from her owner seemed strange to me - too long heat, pups were visible on usg, but then they disappeared etc.). that's why i ask here do other people ask for these tests or not. i don't want to look crazy if i ask it from anybody interested in my male but ok, there are many more factors... last time i didn't ask tests only because i know that bitch very good

All sportive hobby breeders (in several breeds) in my country ask € 100 for each living pup with 2 weeks with a max of the puppy price!

but prices differ. i don't want to name exact males, but for example we contacted one male from czech (he is cpmpletely healthy - hd a, ed 0, dm n/n, has show ch titles etc.) and his owners asked for 50 eur/pup. then we contacted another male from slovakia which had only hd result and 1 cac if i remember good, no training, nothing more... and his owner wanted from us 100 eur. so the question is: what determines the price (i don't talk about owner's fantasy )? seems there is no logic at all. i explained in my previous message how i define studfee, cause some people from europe contacted me and i really know what is to make visa and what is to go so far... that's why i wonder more and more.

But there are also CsW owners in my country who ask the max price to pay with covering. When the female is empty, you can come back one time. When she is empty again you have bad luck….

stupidity...

[monita]

Daniela!
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