some suggestion for names

BeatriceSlavinschi · 02-11-2011, 16:49

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

Navarre ... I am perfect agree with your advice regarding the name ... however some idea can not harm

Probably after a short period after I will have them will be much easy

Regarding my decision to have two in the same time ... you got me thinking ...

Vaiva ... it's about the only breeder from Romania: Von Königs-Terry

Konigs-terry it's not the only breeder in Romania. It's only the biggest ...
I think that you should have been informed first about the breed (characteristics, space request, problems you might have etc). Or after you have made your own research you could get to a conclusion whether to buy two dogs at once or not. This won't be the biggest problem if you will have the time to spend with them and maybe you have someone to help you with them (it's like in baby twins ...

) You should prepare your home (more explicit - secure your home - check objects that might be harmful for them). AND GOOD LUCK!
In Romania there is also a czw puppy mill in Cluj. PAY ATTENTION TO ULFIE VON KONIGS TERRY!
Think you won't be among owners that will come to the conclusion that czech wolfdog is not a breed for them ... because two at once is a little overwhelming ...
In the end to come with a solution to your question check this site:
http://finddognames.com/

Regars,
Beatrice.

P.S.: I don't know where you're from, but if you'll pass through Neamt county you will find our kennel in Durau: Ceahlau Wolves. Or you can meet other czech wolfdogs in shows.
GOOD LUCK AGAIN!

Sir Allen · 02-11-2011, 17:18

easy to pronounce by a child......one syllable

ping and pong
jack and jill
one and two
wish and bone
............

Boysie and Girlie

deocamdata · 02-11-2011, 17:58

Thank you very much to you all ...
I own a house with a big yard (2000 sqm) and a big part of this land is for wolves.
The biggest problem is my time ...
The breeder told me since our first discussion (few months) ago that will not be easy with two in the same time but probably until now, when i have only few days until the moment when the puppies will be in my yard, I didn't pay to much attention to this aspect ....

I'll see ... with the names and also with the numbers

Rona · 02-11-2011, 18:14

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

Thank you very much to you all ...
I own a house with a big yard (2000 sqm) and a big part of this land is for wolves.
The biggest problem is my time ...
The breeder told me since our first discussion (few months) ago that will not be easy with two in the same time but probably until now, when i have only few days until the moment when the puppies will be in my yard, I didn't pay to much attention to this aspect ....

I'll see ... with the names and also with the numbers

Sorry to say this, but you don't seem to know much about vlcaks and even less about CSV pups and raising them.

However big your yard is, they'll want and attempt to be next to their human pack most of the time!
Brining up a pup by leaving it to run in a yard, (at least most of the time), is a very bad idea. Leaving two pups to run free in a yard means asking for serious troubles.

BTW What do you mean by big part of land for wolves? Do you happen to own wolves?

deocamdata · 02-11-2011, 20:17

Wolves ... what is the name of this breed ? I think that is not so difficult to realize that was a figure of speech ...

I don't know nothing about rising puppies of csw ... I am not that kind of person who after reading a book about soccer he believes that he is at least Maradona ...

I chose this bread because I need a dog who loves children, has a very well developed sense of property and is suspicions with strangers and also for his look.

In the past I had two german shepherd and i train them by myself to obey basic commands.
This does not mean that I am a trainer or that i know everything about the german shepherd.

So ... about my yard ... the point was that I am not afraid that the puppies will destroy my sofa or my TV ... I do not intend to abandon that dog in the back of my house ... specially that I have a son which will fall in love of our next member of the family ...

I am open to any advice regarding the puppies because I want everything is the best for them ...

Thank you very much and really I am glad that I found this community ...

yukidomari · 02-11-2011, 20:42

I know it must be hard to read comments or suggestions about not getting 2 dogs at once especially without having prior breed experience... when you post here really wanting support and people to share your excitement and happiness. I really understand it.

But there have been already posts on Wolfdog.org of others who have attempted to have 2 puppies at once from 1 litter with not very good results = double the trouble, double the training, more difficulty in training, more frustration - I think regular owners who are on their first Vlcak find it frustrating enough...

As I believe Jorja Wolfzone and Raider Wolfzone were brought together and shortly afterwards both returned to their breeder or otherwise gotten rid of.

I am only on my first CsV and he will be 1 year old soon. I cannot imagine having brought 2 at the same exact time, they require A LOT of training and time dedication to raise them up right and socialized. And I cannot imagine having another one within 1 or 2 years, that is how much training he will need.

I hope you will reconsider or at least think about how to readjust your schedule to better accommodate your family additions.

And, by the way, I do not trust my 1 year old male CsV to be good with children. He is just too big, rough, and at parks I must be extra careful, because he will knock children down and sometimes mouth too roughly even to me.

Rona · 02-11-2011, 21:19

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

I chose this bread because I need a dog who loves children, has a very well developed sense of property and is suspicions with strangers and also for his look.

I don't think many vlcaks have a well developed sense of property! Instead they have rather extremely very well developed sense of pack membership.

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

In the past I had two german shepherd and i train them by myself to obey basic commands.

CSVs "think" differently and act differently than GSDs. Reading some threads about training to avoid basic errors might be helpful.

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

So ... about my yard ... the point was that I am not afraid that the puppies will destroy my sofa or my TV ... I do not intend to abandon that dog in the back of my house ... specially that I have a son which will fall in love of our next member of the family ...

Relieved to hear this

In the first months a pup requires really a lot of time and energy! Any shortcuts in socialization and training might backfire later.

Good luck!

Rona · 03-11-2011, 08:27

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Originally Posted by yukidomari

He is just too big, rough, and at parks I must be extra careful, because he will knock children down and sometimes mouth too roughly even to me.

Oh yes, vlcak's affection sometimes... hurts

Nebulosa · 02-11-2011, 21:31

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Originally Posted by deocamdata

I chose this bread because I need a dog who loves children, has a very well developed sense of property and is suspicions with strangers and also for his look.

Then I think you're chosing the wrong breed.
Yes, wolfdogs do love child as they do love humans, after 4 months old you will have 2 wolfdogs with no idea about their own strenght and wishing to learn more about their own capacities, it will get worst as more they grow more strong they get, mean you will soon have two troglodytes in your garden, with 12 months they will have almost the size of an adult with the mind of a pup.
You will teach him how to play with humans, but when they play with each other they can easily run over someone without note they did it, it can be quite tragical for a small child.
But it talking about already educated dogs, lets think when they are learning about life and rules, they will jump and bite hard and they will be strong enough to bring down a child which is playing.
Then, lets correct it, educated adult wolfdogs can be good dogs with kids.

As guarding dogs, mainly when we talk about property, better chose a Rottweiler, maybe a German Shepherd working line, CzW can be good guarding dogs if you work hard on it and expend a lot of time socializing, even this way their tendency is not protect the property, but the pack, you will also need to have a strong bond with them to have them as really guard dog.
Either way, don't expect them to be a guard dog as you should be used to, after all wolfdogs loves humans and tend to be very kind with them, even strangers.

02-11-2011, 17:18	#2
Sir Allen Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: LA County, CA Posts: 39	easy to pronounce by a child......one syllable ping and pong jack and jill one and two wish and bone ............ Boysie and Girlie __________________ The MORE you bleed in "TRAINING"; the LESS you bleed in "WAR".

02-11-2011, 17:58	#3
deocamdata Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 27	Thank you very much to you all ... I own a house with a big yard (2000 sqm) and a big part of this land is for wolves. The biggest problem is my time ... The breeder told me since our first discussion (few months) ago that will not be easy with two in the same time but probably until now, when i have only few days until the moment when the puppies will be in my yard, I didn't pay to much attention to this aspect .... I'll see ... with the names and also with the numbers

02-11-2011, 20:17	#5
deocamdata Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 27	Wolves ... what is the name of this breed ? I think that is not so difficult to realize that was a figure of speech ... I don't know nothing about rising puppies of csw ... I am not that kind of person who after reading a book about soccer he believes that he is at least Maradona ... I chose this bread because I need a dog who loves children, has a very well developed sense of property and is suspicions with strangers and also for his look. In the past I had two german shepherd and i train them by myself to obey basic commands. This does not mean that I am a trainer or that i know everything about the german shepherd. So ... about my yard ... the point was that I am not afraid that the puppies will destroy my sofa or my TV ... I do not intend to abandon that dog in the back of my house ... specially that I have a son which will fall in love of our next member of the family ... I am open to any advice regarding the puppies because I want everything is the best for them ... Thank you very much and really I am glad that I found this community ...

02-11-2011, 20:42	#6
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	I know it must be hard to read comments or suggestions about not getting 2 dogs at once especially without having prior breed experience... when you post here really wanting support and people to share your excitement and happiness. I really understand it. But there have been already posts on Wolfdog.org of others who have attempted to have 2 puppies at once from 1 litter with not very good results = double the trouble, double the training, more difficulty in training, more frustration - I think regular owners who are on their first Vlcak find it frustrating enough... As I believe Jorja Wolfzone and Raider Wolfzone were brought together and shortly afterwards both returned to their breeder or otherwise gotten rid of. I am only on my first CsV and he will be 1 year old soon. I cannot imagine having brought 2 at the same exact time, they require A LOT of training and time dedication to raise them up right and socialized. And I cannot imagine having another one within 1 or 2 years, that is how much training he will need. I hope you will reconsider or at least think about how to readjust your schedule to better accommodate your family additions. And, by the way, I do not trust my 1 year old male CsV to be good with children. He is just too big, rough, and at parks I must be extra careful, because he will knock children down and sometimes mouth too roughly even to me.