Creating a working/training/character test - what should it look like?

Rona · 29-09-2011, 17:17

I think there should be a few character/work tests available. Depending on where the dog lives, what is expected from him/her and what the owner considers crucial for the behaviour in a particular setting their could select 2-3 out of 6-7 approved and standardized tests to take and get a "character/work certifiate". This could be defence, OB, tracking/trailing, endurance runs, "socialisation" ie. Dog Citizen Exam, agility, herding, etc.

I think it's unfair to test all the dogs against ONE criterion, if they live in so many different environments and so different kinds of behaviour are expected from them.

*Satu · 29-09-2011, 19:35

Workingtest is total different than charactertest.

I know very many dogs who have working tittles but doesn´t passed FCI charactertest.

29-09-2011, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Rona

I think it's unfair to test all the dogs against ONE criterion, if they live in so many different environments and so different kinds of behaviour are expected from them.

I think the idea, though, is to create a more unified idea of where we want the temperament and working ability to go in the future. To create even more of a predictable, standard temperament in the breed. This won't stop people from indulging in other activities with their dogs as the AKC and UKC have a variety of sports you can participate in. All it will do is create a test based on the things CsVs are BEST at; the things breeders will work towards in their dogs.

As far as the test goes, I like the ideas Marcy's already mentioned. I would either leave off protection, or add a separate test for it that you can obtain an additional title in. I think ALL CsV should be able to pass endurance, obedience, and trailing, but that protection should be more of a case by case basis. Just my 2 cents.

jefta · 30-09-2011, 11:33

I don't see any way to check all drives witch balansed, working dog should have, without defense test. Bonitation character test is in my opinion too primitiv because don't answer for a question why dog attack. On wich drive he do it. And this test promote avoidance agresion.

Rona · 30-09-2011, 12:02

I don't agree. I'll never train my dog for defence! Since Lorka arrived to our home I've taught her she should have a very balanced attitude to humans - no jumping, no grapsing - just indifferent or friendly attitude. I walk my dog in busy streets several times a day, let her unleashed in the city common, take her by buses and trams, go to crowded cafes and friendly stores with her. She is used to walking among people who look all differently, with sticks, strange luggage, etc. etc.
I must be sure she'd never want to play "defence game" with anybody. This is my absolute priority! Thus I don't feel like mixing in my dog's head just to pass some test. I saw wofldogs that do very well on the sleeve, but their owners warn people they should not approach them!

wolfin · 30-09-2011, 15:46

we speak about test or exam? this are big diferent.

*Satu · 30-09-2011, 16:26

Baron spod Dumbiera, Ikala spod Dumbiera, Bono z Holstejna and Andradite Rocks´n Jewels have passed FCI character test whit out any training and that test tell only what kind your dog character is.

all my dog can walk whit me in the city like 2 weeks ago in Kaunas centrum whit out any problems but all can´t passed that character test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-pK...eature=related

jefta · 30-09-2011, 17:33

Rona but it will be test for working dogs not a pets...

29-09-2011, 17:17	#1
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	I think there should be a few character/work tests available. Depending on where the dog lives, what is expected from him/her and what the owner considers crucial for the behaviour in a particular setting their could select 2-3 out of 6-7 approved and standardized tests to take and get a "character/work certifiate". This could be defence, OB, tracking/trailing, endurance runs, "socialisation" ie. Dog Citizen Exam, agility, herding, etc. I think it's unfair to test all the dogs against ONE criterion, if they live in so many different environments and so different kinds of behaviour are expected from them. __________________

30-09-2011, 11:33	#4
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	I don't see any way to check all drives witch balansed, working dog should have, without defense test. Bonitation character test is in my opinion too primitiv because don't answer for a question why dog attack. On wich drive he do it. And this test promote avoidance agresion. __________________

30-09-2011, 12:02	#5
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	I don't agree. I'll never train my dog for defence! Since Lorka arrived to our home I've taught her she should have a very balanced attitude to humans - no jumping, no grapsing - just indifferent or friendly attitude. I walk my dog in busy streets several times a day, let her unleashed in the city common, take her by buses and trams, go to crowded cafes and friendly stores with her. She is used to walking among people who look all differently, with sticks, strange luggage, etc. etc. I must be sure she'd never want to play "defence game" with anybody. This is my absolute priority! Thus I don't feel like mixing in my dog's head just to pass some test. I saw wofldogs that do very well on the sleeve, but their owners warn people they should not approach them! __________________

30-09-2011, 15:46	#6
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	we speak about test or exam? this are big diferent. __________________

30-09-2011, 17:33	#8
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	Rona but it will be test for working dogs not a pets... __________________

29-09-2011, 19:35	#2
*Satu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 194	Workingtest is total different than charactertest. I know very many dogs who have working tittles but doesn´t passed FCI charactertest.