British Kennel Club Recognition

tupacs2legs · 28-09-2011, 20:00

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Originally Posted by hedeon

Well, I have received a reply, a bit strange... According to KC, CSV wasn't registered with KC before. Or in 2002. Any way I will quote evertyhing

My email

And her reply:

Is someone not telling the truth?

now why wouldnt that surprise me

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Originally Posted by pixie

that is the problem, if we can get a group together and forward the names of the dogs with pedigrees to he kennel club, and start to make noises so they know we are not going away they may possibly answer. I doubt it but we have to try, I just believe less people will mix if we are KC registered, as then potential new owners wont be looking at 98% csv 2% whatever, because they will want the KC reistration papers

i do not think it will stop them being mixed,i dont think it would stop them being bred without papers either,you only have to look at the wolf-alikes and the designer-breed stuff going on to see that.

but all the same wont stop us trying...eh?

pixie · 29-09-2011, 00:35

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

now why wouldnt that surprise me

i do not think it will stop them being mixed,i dont think it would stop them being bred without papers either,you only have to look at the wolf-alikes and the designer-breed stuff going on to see that.

but all the same wont stop us trying...eh?

I agree about not stoping mixing, but the demand might fall when there are KC registered dogs and no it wont stop us, this march for recognition has started

hedeon · 29-09-2011, 00:49

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Originally Posted by pixie

I agree about not stoping mixing, but the demand might fall when there are KC registered dogs and no it wont stop us, this march for recognition has started

Demand will fall also when we start to "advertise" European breeders, at least till normal breeding starts here.

happyfeet · 29-09-2011, 09:09

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Originally Posted by hedeon

Demand will fall also when we start to "advertise" European breeders, at least till normal breeding starts here.

Oh great so in 2 years we will have a massive influx of puppies hitting the
Market from novice breeders that have only owned this breed for
Short period, that may still not be KC registered.

All i can see here is disaster! Do you honestly believe that
All these puppies you breeders are selling to the UK in Jan
Wont be used as breeding stock? Rubbish each and everyone
Will I bet my life on it!

Murph · 29-09-2011, 10:09

Seems to be a lot of pessimism ....How many people in the UK have bought a dog from a European breeder, with the agreement they would not breed and then went ahead and bred anyway?

happyfeet · 29-09-2011, 15:07

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Originally Posted by Murph

Seems to be a lot of pessimism ....How many people in the UK have bought a dog from a European breeder, with the agreement they would not breed and then went ahead and bred anyway?

I bought outside the UK and never crossed my mind to breed my dog, I wanted a companion not a money making machine! I do believe I am 'rare'!

pixie · 29-09-2011, 15:52

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Originally Posted by happyfeet

I bought outside the UK and never crossed my mind to breed my dog, I wanted a companion not a money making machine! I do believe I am 'rare'!

maybe not as rare as you think, there are dogs that go for a lot more if i wanted just to make money, i just love this breed

happyfeet · 29-09-2011, 15:12

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Originally Posted by Murph

Seems to be a lot of pessimism ....How many people in the UK have bought a dog from a European breeder, with the agreement they would not breed and then went ahead and bred anyway?

Mine are from Europe and registered but I have not considered a breeding program ,so 'happyfeet' your not rare! theres a few of us out there who enjoy the dog not after a money making machine!

Murph · 29-09-2011, 15:40

Like I said ...pessimism..
happyfeet..why do you believe you are rare?...who are these UK owners that are using CzW as a money making machine?!

Tassle · 29-09-2011, 10:40

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Originally Posted by happyfeet

Oh great so in 2 years we will have a massive influx of puppies hitting the
Market from novice breeders that have only owned this breed for
Short period, that may still not be KC registered.

All i can see here is disaster! Do you honestly believe that
All these puppies you breeders are selling to the UK in Jan
Wont be used as breeding stock? Rubbish each and everyone
Will I bet my life on it!

Do you not think what is happening now is a disaster for the breed? Why is it a good thing to allow the breeders currently here to have a monopoly on these dogs with crossbreeding chucked in as a nice sideline for them?

Do you think things should be left as they are?? Are you happy with the breed as it is in this country?

If not what would your solution be? People are at least trying here to head in the right direction, a bit of positive input might be nice?

pixie · 29-09-2011, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyfeet

Oh great so in 2 years we will have a massive influx of puppies hitting the
Market from novice breeders that have only owned this breed for
Short period, that may still not be KC registered.

All i can see here is disaster! Do you honestly believe that
All these puppies you breeders are selling to the UK in Jan
Wont be used as breeding stock? Rubbish each and everyone
Will I bet my life on it!

It is disaster now, at worst we will remain the same, but if we can get a big enough pool of purebreds then it might turn around if we dont try we will never know. we all know people will always crossbreed but so what we can ignore them and get our breed up and running, there are thousands of mongrels in every country in the world but also alot of people who cherish there particular breed get on the train as all help will ber needed

Tassle · 29-09-2011, 13:42

How about starting off with a Code of ethics?

Listing what would be the criteria for membership? Or possibly different levels of membership?

pixie · 29-09-2011, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Tassle

How about starting off with a Code of ethics?

Listing what would be the criteria for membership? Or possibly different levels of membership?

But who would do this and would we all agree thats why i think meeting up is the best thing to produce the code and membership levels i personally would be willing to ntravel anywhere and collect people where i could to get this srarted

29-09-2011, 10:09	#5
Murph Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 54	Seems to be a lot of pessimism ....How many people in the UK have bought a dog from a European breeder, with the agreement they would not breed and then went ahead and bred anyway? Last edited by Murph; 29-09-2011 at 10:43.

29-09-2011, 15:40	#9
Murph Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 54	Like I said ...pessimism.. happyfeet..why do you believe you are rare?...who are these UK owners that are using CzW as a money making machine?!

29-09-2011, 13:42	#12
Tassle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall Posts: 137	How about starting off with a Code of ethics? Listing what would be the criteria for membership? Or possibly different levels of membership?