Calculation of Wolf blood?

hanninadina · 09-08-2010, 17:16

Wolves.

I think, in only 4 generations from the wild you will get a wolfdog, if you have the chance to breed only tame open wolves. I know two wild caught (as puppies) wolves, a male and a female. The female is open and friendly and is not afraid of strangers. The male is a bit back, I would not say shy. He stays in about 4 m away, but he does not try to hide or something like this. They are only one year old and we will see how they develop.

Here you get very good information, how it "works" breeding wolves to dogs:

http://www.floridalupine.org/publica...s_and_Dogs.htm

But of course there can be tame wolves from the wild. The problem is you have to get a pair so that you can breed them in further back generations. But how you will can say there are wild wolves which are tame? You must have the chance to watch them in nature. So you had to get the whole litters to watch and then to decide. This is almost impossible. There are a lot of wolves in zoos, animalpark, movie industry, where you can get them as adults or as pups.

Saying it needs only 3 generations to get a dog out of a wolf means crossing pure wolf with wolfdog or dog. And there are some exceptions where these wolfdogs are F 2 and like dog. And there are wolves who are 12 generations behind wild caught wolves and they only look like wolves but they are dogs.

Looking at the statement from Monty Sloan that it needs 2 time of work life to get a dog out of a wolf would mean that you need about 70 to 80 years to get a dog. But I think he meant to breed only wolves from the start getting them out of the wild. But even that is too long. I will talk to him soon when I will meet him in september in sweden.

Christian

09-08-2010, 17:16	#40
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	Wolves. I think, in only 4 generations from the wild you will get a wolfdog, if you have the chance to breed only tame open wolves. I know two wild caught (as puppies) wolves, a male and a female. The female is open and friendly and is not afraid of strangers. The male is a bit back, I would not say shy. He stays in about 4 m away, but he does not try to hide or something like this. They are only one year old and we will see how they develop. Here you get very good information, how it "works" breeding wolves to dogs: http://www.floridalupine.org/publica...s_and_Dogs.htm But of course there can be tame wolves from the wild. The problem is you have to get a pair so that you can breed them in further back generations. But how you will can say there are wild wolves which are tame? You must have the chance to watch them in nature. So you had to get the whole litters to watch and then to decide. This is almost impossible. There are a lot of wolves in zoos, animalpark, movie industry, where you can get them as adults or as pups. Saying it needs only 3 generations to get a dog out of a wolf means crossing pure wolf with wolfdog or dog. And there are some exceptions where these wolfdogs are F 2 and like dog. And there are wolves who are 12 generations behind wild caught wolves and they only look like wolves but they are dogs. Looking at the statement from Monty Sloan that it needs 2 time of work life to get a dog out of a wolf would mean that you need about 70 to 80 years to get a dog. But I think he meant to breed only wolves from the start getting them out of the wild. But even that is too long. I will talk to him soon when I will meet him in september in sweden. Christian