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Old 03-08-2010, 11:27   #1
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My 5 year old male is 100lb (45 kilogram) and 27inches (68 centimeter) at the shoulder and is in perfect shape (not an ounce of fat on him!)
I do not know the perfect weight for a male at 68cm, but I think it is about 35kg. 38kg might be a OK weight for a older not training CsV that is 68cm ? but not 45kg.

My boy is about 72cm and has now a weight on 36,5kg that is a bit to slim, I’m trying to get him to about 37,5-38,5kg. But he runs it all off all the time

I think whit any healthy average age CsV you are to be able to run 40km, you can not do that whit a CsV that is 68cm and has a weight on 45kg.

He might not look fat, but he is definitely not in perfect shape. (Standard shape)

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you're right, my dog is over 70 cm and when he passed the exam SVP1 his weight was 42 kg. Only muscles remember what is important:a body-building (strong bones-or delicate). But I agree: 68 cm and 45 kg are not good proportions.
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I think that proportion height/weight mostly depends on index of hight (dog with perfect Xv55 weight less than dog Xv50) and chest (dog with perfect chest weight less than dog with deep and wild chest)
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I made simple graph of CSV height:



I use period 5 years to make it transparent. But I don't now how to put period of time on graph, so 1995 means dogs bonitated in orgin countries in years 1990-1995, 2000 means 1995-2000 etc. As we can see CSV grows
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As we can see CSV grows
You didn't put the standard errors or deviations, so I might be wrong, but this trend doesn't seem too large for me. I wouldn't expect it to be significant...
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To be honest, I was surprised when the vet told me his weight the other day (he just said 100 pounds so I don't know if it was a little more or less he didn't say exactly.) And actually I just started cutting down his food intake a little bit since I got him neutered and don't want him to gain any weight.
But he IS in great shape, we go on hikes and long runs together and he has a large yard to play in all day and he ALWAYS has energy!! (I think I've only tired him out once!) I can still feel his hips and ribs so I know he's not overweight. I have a lot of experience with dogs and I HATE when owners let their dogs get obese, it's one of my 'pet peeves.'
Here is a photo of him, I know you can't tell by a photo alone, but he is in great (though maybe not standard) shape.
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To be honest, I was surprised when the vet told me his weight the other day...

I know that feeling I did put my new female that I did pick up in Cz 1,5 week ago on the scales and she was 30,5kg And she is only 62cm

I did see that she was over weight, but I did think she was only about 27kg,
Now she is on her way down to 25kg at least... I think perfect shape for a 62cm female is 22,5-23,5kg But she is soon to be 7 so I think 25 might be a OK weight for her ??? But I’m all ears, please tell me if I’m wrong any one

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I did see that she was over weight, but I did think she was only about 27kg,
Now she is on her way down to 25kg at least... I think perfect shape for a 62cm female is 22,5-23,5kg But she is soon to be 7 so I think 25 might be a OK weight for her ??? But I’m all ears, please tell me if I’m wrong any one

Very best regards / Mikael
Gerda z Rofa: 61 cm, 27 kg in younger years, now as a great-grandmother 28 kg. http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/66987/
Amy Zlatá Palz: 64 cm, 30 kg
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/66973/
Falin Zlatá Palz: 63,5 cm, 30 Kg
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/70152/
Baschka Zlatá Palz: 65,5 cm, 33 kg
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/17729/
Lorenz Farouk Arimminum: 70 cm, 40 kg
http://www.wolfdog.org/drupal/de/gallery/pic/66999/
Monty Crying Wolf: 68 cm, 33,2 kg (not fully grown)
http://www.wolfdog.org/deu/dbase/d12393.html
in all of them you can feel the rips without any pressuring but you only can see the contures of the last two rips, what is the optimal shape for me. Monty is a little bit thinner because he is still growing.
All of them are of the lighter type, except Baschka who is a little bit heavier build. 22 kg for a fully grown 62 cm female is too thin, except maybe for a dog in full marathon-type training that is very lightly build.

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