DM is more spread in the breed then we thought!

hanninadina · 06-07-2010, 13:00

Mijke, you are writing that a lot of people got in contact to you and told you that their dogs have healthy problems either. You wrote that they do not want to blame their breeder. Right?

Do you remember that you have been in germany in may to the speciality with your dwarf 6 month old csw? Afterwards we had some pn contact. People over there told me that that dwarf pup is from Ondraj. I did not know that it is your pup. When we were in contact, I did ask you, if it is true what I heard? I got til today no answer. If I look at Ondrajs litter, it has the same age like your puppy. But your name and dog is missing.... So if you really want to help the people and of course the breed csw, you can start and name the breeder where your ill puppy is coming from.

Other thing, it makes no sense if people make genetic test, if they do not want to breed because they can not change the history. Only the people who want to breed in future they are forced to do test.

But even so, the possibilities in genetic research develops very fast in the last years. No one will be able to breed truely healthy dogs. Sure it should be the aim. But the character of the dogs is important too. And if you compare dogs with people, you will not find lots of people who are healthy their whole life! What I mean is, that is nature! Only the strong survive! You can not manage everything. It would be a good thing if people start to be honest and breeders would not breed with ill dogs, like your breeder did. Maybe he did not know till his litter came. But now he has to stop breeding his bitch. And of course it must be stopped to do so much inbreeding.

I remember a few month ago everybody was saying, we do not need to breed in fresh wolfblood. So as I see it, it would help, but onyl from healthy wolves, becauses even in the wolfpopulation there are lots of problems because they came out of Zoos and Wildparks and were inbred!

So in the end, nature takes his toll. The minimum is that breeders stop to look for "old bloodlines". It makes no sense only to breed for "old lines" if they are not healthy.

Mijke you are really true, csw is same dog breed like every dog breed and is so ill or not like any other dog breed. To call them a healthy breed is for sure not true. They are average. Enjoy your live with your dogs and stop inbreeding. If they get ill than go to the vet. Like people do if they get ill.

Christian

06-07-2010, 13:00	#19
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	Mijke, you are writing that a lot of people got in contact to you and told you that their dogs have healthy problems either. You wrote that they do not want to blame their breeder. Right? Do you remember that you have been in germany in may to the speciality with your dwarf 6 month old csw? Afterwards we had some pn contact. People over there told me that that dwarf pup is from Ondraj. I did not know that it is your pup. When we were in contact, I did ask you, if it is true what I heard? I got til today no answer. If I look at Ondrajs litter, it has the same age like your puppy. But your name and dog is missing.... So if you really want to help the people and of course the breed csw, you can start and name the breeder where your ill puppy is coming from. Other thing, it makes no sense if people make genetic test, if they do not want to breed because they can not change the history. Only the people who want to breed in future they are forced to do test. But even so, the possibilities in genetic research develops very fast in the last years. No one will be able to breed truely healthy dogs. Sure it should be the aim. But the character of the dogs is important too. And if you compare dogs with people, you will not find lots of people who are healthy their whole life! What I mean is, that is nature! Only the strong survive! You can not manage everything. It would be a good thing if people start to be honest and breeders would not breed with ill dogs, like your breeder did. Maybe he did not know till his litter came. But now he has to stop breeding his bitch. And of course it must be stopped to do so much inbreeding. I remember a few month ago everybody was saying, we do not need to breed in fresh wolfblood. So as I see it, it would help, but onyl from healthy wolves, becauses even in the wolfpopulation there are lots of problems because they came out of Zoos and Wildparks and were inbred! So in the end, nature takes his toll. The minimum is that breeders stop to look for "old bloodlines". It makes no sense only to breed for "old lines" if they are not healthy. Mijke you are really true, csw is same dog breed like every dog breed and is so ill or not like any other dog breed. To call them a healthy breed is for sure not true. They are average. Enjoy your live with your dogs and stop inbreeding. If they get ill than go to the vet. Like people do if they get ill. Christian Last edited by hanninadina; 06-07-2010 at 13:03.