Elbow Dysplasia

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by Admin

No - the rules is different: we remove all ILL dogs from the list.

If you will remove ALL ill dogs, when will you remove dogs with HD B & C, because they are ill too or do you have a special formula which decide how ill a dog must be before it will be removed from the list ?

Originally Posted by Admin

So on the stud dog list you can not find dogs with heart problems, epilepsy, PRA and ED.

How do you know this ? dogs who are not tested or dogs who are tested, but do not make the results official, will still be on the list and it is quit possible that many of these dogs will have one or more of the illnesses you mentioned. ...but ofcourse, you don`t need to fear what you can not see

Originally Posted by Admin

The problem was: the breeders (owners of ill dogs) DO NOT INFORM the puppy owners and other breeders interested in the dogs as stud dogs that the dogs have the problem.

So you think it is better not to test the dogs or not to make the results official, then nobody knows and nobody can choose if they want puppies from ill(ED, heart problems, epilepsy and PRA) dogs, as nobody knows if the dog is ill or not ? how do you find this logic, when people still can choose to take a puppy from an ill dog with HD C ?

Originally Posted by Admin

We already received complains from breeders who covered their females and they accuse US of "advertising" of ill dogs.

But you still advertise for ill dogs with HD C ?

Originally Posted by Admin

As you can see there are different parties: here you can see one (real family: rolf, massimo - check the database and you will see why they keep toghether). But we receive also messages from the other type of breeders..

Massimo and I have no blood relatives, we are friends, if your conclution with the database should stick, I would have a really large family, but in fact I don`t know many people of who my dogs are relatives to their dogs. ...and as Massimo also wrote, we do not always agree, for me it is not necessary for my friends to agree with all my opinions ...I like people who can think for them selves

Originally Posted by Admin

We know that many breeders do not check the heart, eyes, or ED. We know some breeders cheat with the HD results

And this is exactly what you encourage people to do, by this politics you are laying for the day ...really nice

Originally Posted by Admin

Can you write me a GOOD reasons why in this case we should punish dogs with hear problems and epilepsy and make exception for ED?

Can you write me a good reason why to make an exception for HD B & C ?
...To use your own words : an ill dog is an ill dog.

Will it be possible to know your scourse of your claimed seintific work or is it just as secret as who admin is ?

Btw. I am still missing some answers from admin on post 49, I`m looking forward to hear what you have to say to these questions.

Greetings Rolf