Taabernakkelin kennel

*Satu · 11-03-2009, 07:34

Sorry Mikael but who talk about shit now?

Mikael · 11-03-2009, 12:14

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Originally Posted by *Satu

Sorry Mikael but who talk about shit now?

About what ??? as I can prove all I say by old e-mail, and old prints from WD.org…

And as people that did by a puppy from you and Margo can confirm the false HD result !!!

And everybody can NOW se in the database that Sleeping Storm has NO HD result, not A/A or A(0/0) but " data not available" se here : http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/3616

And maybe you can tell me way her Bonitation code is now X ???

BUT WHAT IS THE PROBLEM ??? IS IT SO HARD TO SEND THE X-RAY TO GET A OFFICIAL RESULT ??? OR DO YOU KNOW SHE IS NOT A/A AND THAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM ???

And as you can send that X-ray to other country´s then Finland I do not se ANY excuse at all !!!

TELL ME WHAT YOU WONT ME TO PROVE, AND I CAN PROVE IT TO ALL ONLINE !!! HERE ON WD:ORG !!!

Regards / Mikael

*Satu · 11-03-2009, 12:27

yes you can do what you want...

You can ask thous x-ray photos from Suski but i think she doesn´t help you.

And you can cry also that I have sold many dog whitout money at all...

Every breeder can say own price. That can be 0-100000e if they want.
Hronsek is HD clear whitout any fat.

Can you read you dog pedigree there is many dogs whitout any official healtyresults.

Mikael · 11-03-2009, 13:28

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Originally Posted by *Satu

yes you can do what you want...

You can ask thous x-ray photos from Suski but i think she doesn´t help you.

And you can cry also that I have sold many dog whitout money at all...

Every breeder can say own price. That can be 0-100000e if they want.
Hronsek is HD clear whitout any fat.

Can you read you dog pedigree there is many dogs whitout any official healtyresults.

It is not about the price, its about that you did sell puppy’s from A/A parents, but you did not have a official HD result on Sleeping Storm at ALL. And I demand to get what I did pay you fore…

It is called FALSE MARKETING and is ILLEGAL in Finland and probably in EU to !!!

It is also ILLEGAL to use unofficial HD result on pure-bred by Fkk and FCI !!!

You are a member of Fkk and FCI, or are you not ???

YOUR ANSWER IS THAT YOU WILL NOT GET THE OFFICIAL X-RAY ON SLEEPING STORM ??? Even if you did sell 13 puppy’s as coming from a A/A female !!!

I guess this say all about you and your kennel !!!

And way would I ask Suski about the x-ray on your dog ??? She has nothing to do whit that you did sell puppies on WD.org whit Sleeping Storm as A/A, THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM NOT HER´S !!!

/ Mikael

Wolfsirius · 11-03-2009, 13:42

This case is between you two, but i just want to say, for future,
that please do not ever buy any dog only with info gave by internet.
(especially in any unofficial page) There is ALWAYS official paper about healthy records, if official tests exist.
If i am looking for something for myself, and i want for sure some things from it, i will ask official papers about that, always. Even, i want to trust people who i work with, but black on white is the best way to prove everything, and then is not indistinct anything. I hope you can clear your differences somehow, is nonsense to fight and blame each others in forums. Is very shame that in every breed is lot of disagreement between people.

-Suski

Vaiva · 11-03-2009, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Wolfsirius

This case is between you two, but i just want to say, for future,

Well, no, it is not just between them, guess all CZW owners and breeders are interested about things like this happening in various kennels. So the question is "does the dog have an official x-ray results or not?" And the answer is still missig...

Mikael · 11-03-2009, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Vaiva

Well, no, it is not just between them, guess all CZW owners and breeders are interested about things like this happening in various kennels. So the question is "does the dog have an official x-ray results or not?" And the answer is still missig...

The answer you can se here by Suski from another topic...

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Mikael; the dog i think you are speaking about is x-rayed, and x-rays is here by me, (still) even the dog is not owned by me. Vet took the x-rays , and we didn't send it to kennelclub...
/ Suski

And as Satu say that is the only x-ray photo there is of Sleeping Storm !!! She has NO official x-ray result !!!

Finish Kennel Club also say Sleeping Storm has NO official x-ray result !!!

I do not know way Satu did use this HD result as official here on WD.org as she do not answer either me or Fkk !!! And I do not think she has answer Margo about it neither or any other puppy buyer...

Sad but true / Mikael

Mikael · 11-03-2009, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Wolfsirius

This case is between you two, but i just want to say, for future,
that please do not ever buy any dog only with info gave by internet.
(especially in any unofficial page) There is ALWAYS official paper about healthy records, if official tests exist.
If i am looking for something for myself, and i want for sure some things from it, i will ask official papers about that, always. Even, i want to trust people who i work with, but black on white is the best way to prove everything, and then is not indistinct anything. I hope you can clear your differences somehow, is nonsense to fight and blame each others in forums. Is very shame that in every breed is lot of disagreement between people.

-Suski

This is not only between Satu and me !!! its about her and 10 puppy buyers to !!!

It is also about a false result here on WD.org !!!

And as Satu did not answer on PM to me or Fkk on many many month, this is her choice of talking about this not min !!! I gave her ALLOT of chances to answer !!!

And yes I did trust Satu and the result here on WD.org just as Margo and ALL puppy buyer I did talk to !!!

And even if we would ask, the papers are in Finish, therefore I trusted Satus word for it, as I do not know any Finish !!!

And I did not think Satu was ILLEGAL !!! but I guess I was wrong !!!

But I do not se way she refuses to get a official x-ray if now Sleeping Storm is A/A fore real !!!

Best regards / Mikael

Mikael · 11-03-2009, 13:40

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Originally Posted by *Satu

You can ask thous x-ray photos from Suski but i think she doesn´t help you.

Thanks by the way fore telling everybody the truth !!!

That you did sell puppies here on WD.org as coming from A/A parents, but you in fact do not have any x-ray at ALL on Sleeping Storm, and the only one that has a unofficial result is Suski !!!

Now everybody knows that what I say is the truth and not just bull shit as you did say !!!

Best regards / Mikael

11-03-2009, 07:34	#1
*Satu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 194	Sorry Mikael but who talk about shit now? __________________ www.csv.fi

11-03-2009, 12:27	#3
*Satu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 194	yes you can do what you want... You can ask thous x-ray photos from Suski but i think she doesn´t help you. And you can cry also that I have sold many dog whitout money at all... Every breeder can say own price. That can be 0-100000e if they want. Hronsek is HD clear whitout any fat. Can you read you dog pedigree there is many dogs whitout any official healtyresults. __________________ www.csv.fi

11-03-2009, 13:42	#5
Wolfsirius Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118	This case is between you two, but i just want to say, for future, that please do not ever buy any dog only with info gave by internet. (especially in any unofficial page) There is ALWAYS official paper about healthy records, if official tests exist. If i am looking for something for myself, and i want for sure some things from it, i will ask official papers about that, always. Even, i want to trust people who i work with, but black on white is the best way to prove everything, and then is not indistinct anything. I hope you can clear your differences somehow, is nonsense to fight and blame each others in forums. Is very shame that in every breed is lot of disagreement between people. -Suski __________________ I believe in the Wolf, her spirit and her strength. I respect the power they have and will. Walk beside them and protect them my entire life. -Suski-