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Old 10-10-2008, 08:10   #1
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Again, feel like i have not stop talking so far

Here in the UK there is no one to stop you from crossing what u like. we have the kennel club, who u can register the dogs with how ever they dont except sarloos or csv.

I assume there are people in Europe that stop you from doing this?

Again you are lucky as your breeders are registered which does help
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:28   #2
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Here in the UK there is no one to stop you from crossing what u like. we have the kennel club, who u can register the dogs with how ever they dont except sarloos or csv.

I assume there are people in Europe that stop you from doing this?
This is mainly the issue of ethics and personal moral standards .

It took many years of hard work, tough decisions, deaths of animals, etc. to create a new breed - the CSV, that would have particular appearance and features. If you bothered to read the history of the breed you might realise that at the military kennel hundreds of dogs were eliminated [*] in the process of selection. It involved a lot of suffering of animals and people.

If people like the breeder of your dogs lightly destroys (for money?) the efforts of many people, don't be surprised that he is considered a barbarian by people who care about the breed. And this has nothing to do with snobbery or "elite club". Just common sense and respect for hard work of people who devoted their lives to the development of the breed.

Still it seems to me from reading this forum that in Britain more
people than anywhere else have problems with understanding this simple truth....
I'm sorry to say that, but it looks like plain arrogance
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:23   #3
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Hi there

Again, feel like i have not stop talking so far

Here in the UK there is no one to stop you from crossing what u like. we have the kennel club, who u can register the dogs with how ever they dont except sarloos or csv.

And i think 'breeders' crossing SWD and TWD with other dogs, is not helping the procces of getting the breeds acknowledged

I am very much opposed to cross breeding the way it is so often done, a selfacclaimed specialist does it, claiming to know best and safe the breed this way... If so despretely needed, why not do it with the backing of the official institutes??

mentioned earlier in this discussion was a probable TwD # SWD crossing and the offspring having official pedigrees... The writer mentioned that that might be good for the SWD but TWD might not want these crosses.. well let me tell you, i picked the SWD because of temperament, character etc, its breeds specifics. A TWD might seem similair in appaerance at first glance, but no more that that... so i as a SWD owner also pass for the crosses, and do not believe these bring health benifits, cause like the SWD, the TWD has also some 'flaws' in health.
I love the TWD as a breed, see it as a breed where there is also still work to be done, and neither the SWD or TWD imho benefit from wild crosses at the moment. There might come a time when outcross may be needed, but hopefully than that can be done with care, cooperation from several breed clubs ect!
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