de Louba Tar kennel

[Nebulosa]

I told him the topic will be opened when he have all proofs officially as the DNA exams, i'm only waiting the confirmation PM for this.
I wonder is why soo many times for a DNA exams...

[bengan]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

I told him the topic will be opened when he have all proofs officially as the DNA exams, i'm only waiting the confirmation PM for this.
I wonder is why soo many times for a DNA exams...

I find it strange that he has not been online or has used the forum for the last few months.. the longer it takes the less believable/credible her appears.
You could think that he was just making empty accusations, it's a shame..

Bengan

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by bengan

I find it strange that he has not been online or has used the forum for the last few months.. the longer it takes the less believable/credible her appears.
You could think that he was just making empty accusations, it's a shame..

Bengan

my husband paul is in Holland this week along with others making there last statements for the kennel club, we also know that mrs Keizer is still up to her old tricks, mrs Keizer has no breeders licence, anyone can check this out by phoning the Frence ministry regarding animals, my husband has all paper work with him or i could give the number, mrs Keizer has recently bred a high wolf content dog called Skog( which bye the way is registered as a pedigree Saarloos) to a bitch called Rubis, ( again registered as a pedigree Saarloos) The pups where born in France then move to Holland at 6 WEEKS of age, this is illegal in Holland,,,, so it will be very interesting (1) to see if the pups are registered as pure Saarloos (2) to see where mrs keizer registers them in Holland or France (3) to see if she goes down as breeder or some other kennel name is used, bye the way to all you people in Holland, Check this out how come Mrs Keizer has TWO AFFIX (kennel names) registered with dutch kennel club,,,,,,this is fact,,, before i go just to prove all i say is true here is the link to the silly friend of Mrs Keizers who slapped this all over the internet to see,, http://www.niawolf.blogspot.com/ sorry this person may not be silly but just another inocent victim of decite that now thinks she owns a pure bred dog, have a look and see if you really think Skog and Rubis are true Saarloos, we know where both animals where bred and by who, this is all illegal and very unfair to new owners and to the Saarloos breed who others work very hard to do selective breeding to keep them pure, we have tried to contact this person but can not as no details come up, thank you for your time regards mrs m winder

[bengan]

Originally Posted by solowolf

my husband paul is in Holland this week along with others making there last statements for the kennel club, we also know that mrs Keizer is still up to her old tricks, mrs Keizer has no breeders licence, anyone can check this out by phoning the Frence ministry regarding animals, my husband has all paper work with him or i could give the number, mrs Keizer has recently bred a high wolf content dog called Skog( which bye the way is registered as a pedigree Saarloos) to a bitch called Rubis, ( again registered as a pedigree Saarloos) The pups where born in France then move to Holland at 6 WEEKS of age, this is illegal in Holland,,,, so it will be very interesting (1) to see if the pups are registered as pure Saarloos (2) to see where mrs keizer registers them in Holland or France (3) to see if she goes down as breeder or some other kennel name is used, bye the way to all you people in Holland, Check this out how come Mrs Keizer has TWO AFFIX (kennel names) registered with dutch kennel club,,,,,,this is fact,,, before i go just to prove all i say is true here is the link to the silly friend of Mrs Keizers who slapped this all over the internet to see,, http://www.niawolf.blogspot.com/ sorry this person may not be silly but just another inocent victim of decite that now thinks she owns a pure bred dog, have a look and see if you really think Skog and Rubis are true Saarloos, we know where both animals where bred and by who, this is all illegal and very unfair to new owners and to the Saarloos breed who others work very hard to do selective breeding to keep them pure, we have tried to contact this person but can not as no details come up, thank you for your time regards mrs m winder

so we can expect some new in the very near future.. ??

Question.. if the dogs are not registered in France but in the Netherlands.. why would she need to have a breeders license for France..?
She is registered with the dutch kennel club as a breeder and fills all the requirements that are needed, http://www.raadvanbeheer.nl/uploads/...rochureHKB.pdf (sorry but its only in dutch)

As far as I can tell, looking through all the rules from the dutch kennel club.. there is nothing that says a dog has to be born in the Netherlands in order to receive a dutch pedigree/registration..

As for the accusations regarding "Skog" not being a saarloos.. I believe that is one of the accusations that Paul is trying to prove.. so in all fairness, you shold wait until there has been a judgment.

I still have a few open questions.. regarding your "Club" .. Paul stated that all breeding is witnessed by 2 members and that your club is documenting everything in the hoop that the CWD will someday be accepted/recognized in the UK and that all the dogs that you have breed without an official pedigree up will then be recognized.
My questions were ..
how many members are there?
what is the name of your club..? (have not been able to find any info - google or otherwise)
Is the club registered and is it possible to see the official club charter?
Who are the board members and when were the elections..?

Normal information that one could find on say a club website.

Looking forward to your reply.
Bengan

[of_Mercedes_Dream]

Puppies born in France are transported via Belgium to the Netherlands.
In Belgium it's forbidden to transport any dog (and animals) without chip or tatou. Registration-law from 1999.
In this case the "flying" douane can hold on the transport of puppies.

Patrick

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by of_Mercedes_Dream

Puppies born in France are transported via Belgium to the Netherlands.
In Belgium it's forbidden to transport any dog (and animals) without chip or tatou. Registration-law from 1999.
In this case the "flying" douane can hold on the transport of puppies.

Patrick

It is also forbidden from international law. Every pet crossing a border has to be tatooed or chipped,

Ina

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by of_Mercedes_Dream

Puppies born in France are transported via Belgium to the Netherlands.
In Belgium it's forbidden to transport any dog (and animals) without chip or tatou. Registration-law from 1999.
In this case the "flying" douane can hold on the transport of puppies.

Patrick

yes the law is similar passing from one european country to another, but apart from that we are talking about puppies of 6 weeks old in crate in back of van being driven from france to house in holland being chipped then back to france in same day, all because mrs keizer has no breeders licence in france, who here would subject there pups to this type of journey? p.winder

[Azazel]

Originally Posted by solowolf

my husband paul is in Holland this week along with others making there last statements for the kennel club

Hello Solowolf....

Who are these others??... maybe other dutch breeders? Or should we start guessing?

Regards,
Barry

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by Azazel

Hello Solowolf....

Who are these others??... maybe other dutch breeders? Or should we start guessing?

Regards,
Barry

the others are all independant witnesses who are from various European countries, some are breeders, some are people who purchased dogs with bad health problems, and other people for other various reasons,if you speak dutch then you can contact the dutch kennel club and ask why Mrs Cornelia Keizer has two affix;s registered with them, DE LOUBA TAR and EHWHAZ, she has registered litters in her name under both affixs, illegaly taken pups of 6 weeks of age into another european country with no vet travel certificate and also without vaccinations ILLEGAL, it also is known that puppies are to be registered in country of birth, you can mate a bitch in Holland and return to france to let bitch have her pups, but you can not register the pups born in france in holland, these are FCI rules check them out for yourself. did you know to bring a dog from france to holland for dog show you need travell certificate??? ok maybe a lot of people do not do this but if stopped at border patrol you can be refussed entre with the dog.. p.winder

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by Azazel

Hello Solowolf....

Who are these others??... maybe other dutch breeders? Or should we start guessing?

Regards,
Barry

Barry, you sound like you are worried about something ? or geting impatient,, how do you think we feel, its taken nearly 5yrs to collect and produce evidence which is 100% bomb proof, evry single thing we state we must supply evidence beyond any doubt, every witness who has evidence must be able to prove it, a witness who has seen something were only that person has been present with mrs keizer is not good enough, as this would simply be a case of one person against another, no good to us, we have everything that can not be argued with, 100% facts with photos ,videos, regards p.winder

[Azazel]

Originally Posted by solowolf

Barry, you sound like you are worried about something ? or geting impatient,, how do you think we feel, its taken nearly 5yrs to collect and produce evidence which is 100% bomb proof, evry single thing we state we must supply evidence beyond any doubt, every witness who has evidence must be able to prove it, a witness who has seen something were only that person has been present with mrs keizer is not good enough, as this would simply be a case of one person against another, no good to us, we have everything that can not be argued with, 100% facts with photos ,videos, regards p.winder

Haha.. i'm not worried at all, and why should i?

It all sounds like a breeders quirrell to me.
Instead of making aquisations against each other it's maybe better to mind your own business or try to work together for a change.

Breeders: welcome to the world of jealousy & envy

I recon a big dutch breeder in holland is also part of your army against Mrs Keizer's terror? Or am i mistaken?

Regards,
Barry

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by Azazel

Haha.. i'm not worried at all, and why should i?

It all sounds like a breeders quirrell to me.
Instead of making aquisations against each other it's maybe better to mind your own business or try to work together for a change.

Breeders: welcome to the world of jealousy & envy

I recon a big dutch breeder in holland is also part of your army against Mrs Keizer's terror? Or am i mistaken?

Regards,
Barry

JEALOUSY, ENVY, have you been asleep, have you seen what these people are doing to the saarloos breed, using high content wolfdogs and registering the pups as pure bred with the kennel club, have you looked at photo of SKOG, GLAD YOU SEE A FUNNY SIDE TO PEOPLE BASTARDISING THIS WONDERFUL BREED,