Breeders in the United States

wolfangel · 26-10-2007, 16:30

WOW! If there is at least 20 CSV in USA, all must be AKC-FSS registered soon....

To help us, Canadian and American owners, to meet each other and exchange information easier...
I just created a group and invite all USA and CDN owners to join the group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDNUSA_CSV/

I think that group can be a good place to work for the full recognition of the breed in each side of the border

And yes CSV LOVES indoors and to be part of the family...
If properly socialized they love kids and are eager to play with them.

hanninadina · 29-10-2007, 20:12

CSW is a breed which is breed in FCI worldwide and they are allowed in US and CANADA why not? A halfsister of my Myla Crying Wolf from first litter - Frida Crying wolf - is living in the Us. Look in data base and contact them.Good luck. And I think you can get from europe one.Christian

wolfangel · 30-10-2007, 23:11

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Originally Posted by hanninadina

CSW is a breed which is breed in FCI worldwide and they are allowed in US and CANADA why not?

Unfortunately, because of its French & English name's translation (Chien-Loup & Wolfdog) some states may refused the CSV.

In Canada and in most US states, it is against the law to own an hybrid...

I perfectly know that the CSV should be considered as a dog and not directly as an hybrid but some states' shelter inspectors & gouvernement inspectors may put a CSV owner in lot of trouble....

As an example, a law against all dogs of pitt bull type exist in Ontario and a retired couple needed to pay lot of lawyer expenses when their animal control inspector made a complain against them because they "owned" a dog of that type. In fact the dog was a Labrador !!!!!!

In North America some inspectors are not so good and easy to deal with. Every US owners should be sure of their states law to avoid problem.
Also as soon as all CSV in US will be AKC-FSS registered, owners will have a proof of their dog's origin as a dog .... not a direct hybrid.

There is too many kinds of hybrids in US and most are not legally owned....

this hybrid popularity play a bad role on the CSV future.

It is for me like the American Staff and Pittbull relation. Now that Pittbull (not a rcognized breed) is considered as dangerous and so many laws are against that type of dog, AmStaff are also putted in the same bag.
I wish to never see that happening in the CSV... with all hybrids in USA and Canada that are considered dangerous...

On the market there is so many false papers goind on and there so maybe the officials will not recognized a foreign pedigree... specially in a foreign language than English!

The way to obtain the AKC-FSS registration is really simple : two photos of the dog, the copy of its pedigree and $30.

Not always easy to deal with North American bureaucratic

Lycaon · 27-07-2008, 22:56

Hi my name is Samantha and I too am looking to find one of these magnificent dogs. I have done much research over the past four months. After reading the forums I am a little worried about buying a pup without meeting its family (humans and dogs) first. I have four girls from ages 14 to 4. It is just me and them with our rescued dogs and cats, a parrot, two guinea pigs, and a few laying hens. I used to own horses but I had to choose between the cost of the children and the horses. My great grandparents are from the same general region as these animals and I would not be against visiting the Czech Republic but we would have to save up a lot of money (I think) to make such a trip. The camps sound like great fun and since my eldest daughter and I love to hike and camp every chance we get, it would be a perfect vacation. I have never been overseas nor shipped anything there but I have wanted to visit the places of my family's origin for many years: Hungary, Czech Republic, and Germany. We have friends who moved back home to Belgium not too long ago and my daughter thinks Italian men are hunks...I will say no more.
I already own a very shy rescued dog and we adopted her when she was only 5 weeks old. She loves us very much but it is a constant struggle to work with her since she is scared of everyone and everything. The only punishment she has ever needed is a harsh word and she is on her back begging for forgiveness before you finish saying no. The other rescued dog is small and aggressive with strangers but she is not much of a deterent or protector since the most she could do is bite their feet. She has the most dominant personality of any dog or horse I have ever owned, but we have come to an understanding of who the alpha is.
I do not want an aggressive dog, nor a shy one. I want a family companion that is playful and loving and full of mischief like my children. One who loves us so much that if an intruder came into the home he would protect us as I called the police and then helped him out. (if I could) I have considered the Tamaskan breed but I have been told they are somewhat shy.
I truly believe the environment a dog is raised in, the moment they are born, is very important. Which is why I fear simply shipping a dog overseas unless it is a very reputable breeder who is experienced in placing the right pup with the right family. My family is full of female humans and animals that would all adore a sweet loving male pup. I only worry that because I have a shy dog the pup would take on some of the older dog's personality. I have never found this to be true with other dogs I have owned but each breed is different and young dogs sometimes emulate the older ones. You all could be most helpful in that regard.
Our state regulations in North Carolina are a bit relaxed. In fact the only real regulations are that animals with a certain high percentage of wolf blood require a license to own. After speaking with our vet, she told me that they like to have the animal's paperwork to determine what vaccinations, etc. work best. They see a lot of wolf hybrids and there are quite a few in local shelters without hope of adoption due to their aggressive behavior.
I am sorry this is so long, but I wanted you all to know what kind of family we are and that we are serious about this. Money is a bit of an issue but I am in no great hurry. Especially since this is a family member we are looking for. I have plenty of time to make the right decision and save up the money for a trip or shipping. Thank you for reading this very long post I will be keeping track of summer events for next year as well as talking to the airlines and state department guidelines.

Hanka · 28-07-2008, 06:32

Hello Samantha,
write me to my privat adress, I can write you adress of my "american owner"

of my puppy Polo. He can write you about some experiences and problems in living with wolfdog puppy in US. I hope, it can be good for you before buying of puppy.

wolfangel · 28-07-2008, 20:43

Hi Samantha

I just answered your private email sent to my husband.
I also can say that one breeder is now in Virginia state. Her two CSV are not fully mature yet but she plan her first litter somewhere end 2009 starting 2010. If you contact her, you may have a good chance to meet few CSV in US.... she organize several CSV meeting there. Last one, there was 6 CSV....

Nothing is better to see the breed in reality and meet some to know if the breed suit our needs and expectations.

Wolfangel (jojo)

26-10-2007, 16:30	#1
wolfangel Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 9	WOW! If there is at least 20 CSV in USA, all must be AKC-FSS registered soon.... To help us, Canadian and American owners, to meet each other and exchange information easier... I just created a group and invite all USA and CDN owners to join the group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CDNUSA_CSV/ I think that group can be a good place to work for the full recognition of the breed in each side of the border And yes CSV LOVES indoors and to be part of the family... If properly socialized they love kids and are eager to play with them. __________________ *Wolfangel...* Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

27-07-2008, 22:56	#4
Lycaon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2	Another family in the US wishing to find a CsW Hi my name is Samantha and I too am looking to find one of these magnificent dogs. I have done much research over the past four months. After reading the forums I am a little worried about buying a pup without meeting its family (humans and dogs) first. I have four girls from ages 14 to 4. It is just me and them with our rescued dogs and cats, a parrot, two guinea pigs, and a few laying hens. I used to own horses but I had to choose between the cost of the children and the horses. My great grandparents are from the same general region as these animals and I would not be against visiting the Czech Republic but we would have to save up a lot of money (I think) to make such a trip. The camps sound like great fun and since my eldest daughter and I love to hike and camp every chance we get, it would be a perfect vacation. I have never been overseas nor shipped anything there but I have wanted to visit the places of my family's origin for many years: Hungary, Czech Republic, and Germany. We have friends who moved back home to Belgium not too long ago and my daughter thinks Italian men are hunks...I will say no more. I already own a very shy rescued dog and we adopted her when she was only 5 weeks old. She loves us very much but it is a constant struggle to work with her since she is scared of everyone and everything. The only punishment she has ever needed is a harsh word and she is on her back begging for forgiveness before you finish saying no. The other rescued dog is small and aggressive with strangers but she is not much of a deterent or protector since the most she could do is bite their feet. She has the most dominant personality of any dog or horse I have ever owned, but we have come to an understanding of who the alpha is. I do not want an aggressive dog, nor a shy one. I want a family companion that is playful and loving and full of mischief like my children. One who loves us so much that if an intruder came into the home he would protect us as I called the police and then helped him out. (if I could) I have considered the Tamaskan breed but I have been told they are somewhat shy. I truly believe the environment a dog is raised in, the moment they are born, is very important. Which is why I fear simply shipping a dog overseas unless it is a very reputable breeder who is experienced in placing the right pup with the right family. My family is full of female humans and animals that would all adore a sweet loving male pup. I only worry that because I have a shy dog the pup would take on some of the older dog's personality. I have never found this to be true with other dogs I have owned but each breed is different and young dogs sometimes emulate the older ones. You all could be most helpful in that regard. Our state regulations in North Carolina are a bit relaxed. In fact the only real regulations are that animals with a certain high percentage of wolf blood require a license to own. After speaking with our vet, she told me that they like to have the animal's paperwork to determine what vaccinations, etc. work best. They see a lot of wolf hybrids and there are quite a few in local shelters without hope of adoption due to their aggressive behavior. I am sorry this is so long, but I wanted you all to know what kind of family we are and that we are serious about this. Money is a bit of an issue but I am in no great hurry. Especially since this is a family member we are looking for. I have plenty of time to make the right decision and save up the money for a trip or shipping. Thank you for reading this very long post I will be keeping track of summer events for next year as well as talking to the airlines and state department guidelines.

28-07-2008, 20:43	#6
wolfangel Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 9	For Samantha Hi Samantha I just answered your private email sent to my husband. I also can say that one breeder is now in Virginia state. Her two CSV are not fully mature yet but she plan her first litter somewhere end 2009 starting 2010. If you contact her, you may have a good chance to meet few CSV in US.... she organize several CSV meeting there. Last one, there was 6 CSV.... Nothing is better to see the breed in reality and meet some to know if the breed suit our needs and expectations. Wolfangel (jojo) __________________ *Wolfangel...* Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

29-10-2007, 20:12	#2
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	CSW is a breed which is breed in FCI worldwide and they are allowed in US and CANADA why not? A halfsister of my Myla Crying Wolf from first litter - Frida Crying wolf - is living in the Us. Look in data base and contact them.Good luck. And I think you can get from europe one.Christian

28-07-2008, 06:32	#5
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Hello Samantha, write me to my privat adress, I can write you adress of my "american owner" of my puppy Polo. He can write you about some experiences and problems in living with wolfdog puppy in US. I hope, it can be good for you before buying of puppy.