Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

yukidomari · 09/06/2011, 00h00

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in CSV are wolfgrey GSD blood - I think we mas see in this color table and try understand who is wolfgrey GSD gens and can this dogs have others gens or not ( if this are like resesive gens in this case grey GSD not can have others color puppy ) I hope i explain who I have in my mind

I think I understand, yes. Do you mean only phenotype sable GSDs were used in foundation?

wolfin · 09/06/2011, 00h02

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I think I understand, yes. Do you mean only phenotype sable GSDs were used in foundation?

from this info who we can search - yes wolfgreyh working line GSD - this same GSD now work in army and policie and are grey too ( or black and very smal procent are black and tan like show GSD)

jmvdwiel · 09/06/2011, 00h47

Coat color is an interesting subject, and what I did understand not an easy thing to understand.

There are different genes for coat color and patern, and the mixing of these things do make the color of the coat we actually see on our dog.

There is a gen for the coat color in GSD it is B (black) en b (brown)
B is dominat over b
BB is black
Bb is black
bb is brown

Then there is a patern of the coat, wolfgrey and sable are coat paterns.
This means those genes wil tell where the black/brown color is showing on our dog and that on some parts of the dog the black is not visible.

Then there is a dilution gen......
When you coat color is black geneticly it wil show on the dog as a blue color.
When your coat color is brown geneticly it wil show on the dog as a lighter version liver?

Maybe someone here can tell us more about this thing coat color, as i find it very hard stuff to deal with. And there can always be a spontanious mutation of a gen...... like the Panda german shepherd.

wolfin · 09/06/2011, 00h55

GSD are a, at, aw, as, A
like are in books aw x aw born only aw - wolf grey
A are only teorical black when in dogs are a black dogs
a x a - all black
aw x a - wolfgrey
at x as - black and tan

this are color genetic who not change anatomy, ( bones, head type and moore)

p.s. Your dog can realy help to DNA testing in this case

09/06/2011, 00h55	#4
wolfin Moderator Date d'inscription: September 2003 Localisation: Where the wolf lives Messages: 6 095	GSD are a, at, aw, as, A like are in books aw x aw born only aw - wolf grey A are only teorical black when in dogs are a black dogs a x a - all black aw x a - wolfgrey at x as - black and tan this are color genetic who not change anatomy, ( bones, head type and moore) p.s. Your dog can realy help to DNA testing in this case __________________

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09/06/2011, 00h47	#3
jmvdwiel Senior Member Date d'inscription: April 2007 Messages: 1 061	Coat color is an interesting subject, and what I did understand not an easy thing to understand. There are different genes for coat color and patern, and the mixing of these things do make the color of the coat we actually see on our dog. There is a gen for the coat color in GSD it is B (black) en b (brown) B is dominat over b BB is black Bb is black bb is brown Then there is a patern of the coat, wolfgrey and sable are coat paterns. This means those genes wil tell where the black/brown color is showing on our dog and that on some parts of the dog the black is not visible. Then there is a dilution gen...... When you coat color is black geneticly it wil show on the dog as a blue color. When your coat color is brown geneticly it wil show on the dog as a lighter version liver? Maybe someone here can tell us more about this thing coat color, as i find it very hard stuff to deal with. And there can always be a spontanious mutation of a gen...... like the Panda german shepherd.