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Old 06-05-2009, 11:58   #1
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I did also had contact whit a breeder from Poland, if I do not remember wrong it was 1200 Euro in 2008 for a female puppy
Who was it? Could you send me the name to my PW - I'm really curious ?

The price for a SHOW quality puppy in Poland in about 650-850 EUR (depends on breeder and not on the quality of the parents). If someone asked 1200 EUR from you - it was typical "sucker hunt" (breeders are asking much higher price that the puppy is worth and hope they will find someone who will be pay such price and they will get 2x or 3x more money than they get for a puppy which they sell to other people)... Sorry, I don't like it but it is pretty common behaviour of many breeders in this part of Europe...


To be honest the puppy prices base on nothing... You can buy offsprings of "super champions" for a very fair price and poor quality puppies for thousands of Euro...
This year I had people interested in buying a cheaper pet-quality puppy. I suggested them to send emails to unknown breeders from Poland, Slovakia and Czech Republic which have not so good quality dogs without any show results and with no serious achievements as breeders. We were shocked because the prices they asked were higher than the show quality puppies in Poland...
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Old 06-05-2009, 14:05   #2
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Who was it? Could you send me the name to my PW - I'm really curious ?

The price for a SHOW quality puppy in Poland in about 650-850 EUR
Noooo, that is to cheap Margo

If that is the price in Poland for Polish people is one thing, but in Sweden that is to cheap and you will only get a mix breed for 650 Euro or a pedigree cat

The price for a rear pedigree dog as a CsV puppy in Sweden would be about 2000 Euro therefore I think it is bigger chance that we rip the breeders in Poland off

I think you better take at least 1000 Euro if you sell a puppy to Sweden

But I hope you will take 1200 Euro the next time people in Sweden will still think that is normal price...

The price for a GSD in Sweden I think is about 1000-1200 Euro.

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Old 06-05-2009, 14:21   #3
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The price for a rear pedigree dog as a CsV puppy in Sweden would be about 2000 Euro therefore I think it is bigger chance that we rip the breeders in Poland off

I think you better take at least 1000 Euro if you sell a puppy to Sweden

But I hope you will take 1200 Euro the next time people in Sweden will still think that is normal price...

The price for a GSD in Sweden I think is about 1000-1200 Euro.

Best regards / Mikael
In Germany you will even find the interesting version that NON-FCI bred dogs of parents without proper health tests are sold for almost the same price as FCI-bred ones because the people really believe that those dogs are better and their breeders don´t spend money on expensive papers.
As a German talk says "man want to be cheated".
One of these breeders even told me he sells for the same price because he doesn´t want to take puppy-buyers away from the FCI-breeders with cheaper prices.

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Old 06-05-2009, 17:17   #4
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In Germany you will even find the interesting version that NON-FCI bred dogs of parents without proper health tests are sold for almost the same price as FCI-bred ones because the people really believe that those dogs are better and their breeders don´t spend money on expensive papers.
Oh, nice to hear other countries also have this problem In my humble opinion, if a breeder who doesn't know you as a person starts a conversation with you by telling the price - thank him for his time and call the other one A good breeder will first of all check if you will be a good wolfdog's owner, if he thinks you will - money will not be the problem

I bought my dog when I was still a student (means no money for buying pedigree dogs ) and the breeder said "pay when you can". So that is what I did

Still Lithuania seems to be country of the cheapest dogs
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Old 06-05-2009, 17:46   #5
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Navarre, you write good text, but there is one thing i want to comment:

"neither pay the mate, as the male is of his own."

For this i must say my opinion, that to keep your "own male" is not free.
If you use male owned by somebody else, you do not have to pay food, insurances, shows, bonitations, x-rays, only mating payment.
If male is owned by you, you have to buy it as a puppy (or adult), you have to pay all costs from it during it's lifetime, and you have to take care about it every day. So, to use own male is not so cheap. And very often in countries where is not so many dogs in the breed, there will be no use for many breedings for same male, which is good in fact. (no matador breeding)

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