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Old 17-11-2011, 21:15   #1
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So ... in this moment his food is exclusively Purina Pro Plan ...
Unfortunately his poop is somewhat liquid some times ... so first question is ... this is normal for a CSW ?
My vet recommended me Royal Canin Gastrointestinal ...should I give him ?
When can I diversify his food ? Now is two months old ...
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Old 17-11-2011, 23:43   #2
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Hi, this sounds familiar to me
My CSW started with NutraGold and had diarrhea most of the time, she even had to be at the vet some days. Then we changed to Purina ProPlan... it went better but sometimes diarrhea was back and she was very skinny. Then we changed again to Satisfaction and it's the food we are giving until now. She is strong and energic, likes the food, makes less poop and all the intestinal problems never came back again.
Don't know if that's a breed problem but... her siblings had similar problems.
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Old 18-11-2011, 00:30   #3
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hi

my csv cannot handle 'kibble' that contains cereals.... so i have to feed him non grain kibble(fish and potato) and raw
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also...has your puppy been 'de wormed'
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Coccidia can be a problem for young puppies (many older dogs also carry it, but have no/few symptoms, as their immune systems are more mature). But I assume your vet has already checked for this. It must be treated with special medicine and is difficult to clean from the environment.

Feeding too much at one time (especially some of the high protein kibbles) can cause diarrhea. My dogs also have had difficulty with foods containing chicken and fish, and also grains (rice has been ok).
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Old 18-11-2011, 06:25   #6
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I recommend to new owners of my puppies to feed raw food as long as possible. But when they decide to feed dry food, I recommend the best quality dry food. Of course each puppy is different and what is great to this puppy, can make diarhea to other puppy. When my female was a puppy, we used two different kinds of dry food. Hill´s did not work (probably too much corn in it), put Purina Pro Plan was the target. We use it until now (Rena is 5 years old) without problems.
And don´t forget (tupacs2legs mentioned it) - puppy must be dewormed and also outer parasites (flees etc.) must be gone.
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it went better but sometimes diarrhea was back and she was very skinny. Then we changed again to Satisfaction and it's the food we are giving until now. She is strong and energic, likes the food, makes less poop and all the intestinal problems never came back again.
Don't know if that's a breed problem but... her siblings had similar problems.
The reason can be giardia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardia_lamblia) - all dogs imported for one of the origin countries which were tested in our country were 'carriers' of lambia. And I heard in other countries it is the same - common but in many cases unknown problem.

I will not speak a lot about it - anyway in the case of diarrhea which is coming back and back again just be sure to deworm the puppy with Panacur or Aniprazol. You give it only one time but for several days (3-6).

Even if te problems were not caused by giardia the puppy will be at least sure that the puppy was properly dewormed....
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Old 30-11-2011, 12:09   #8
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Hi everyone,

It has been quite some time since I last checked the forums here and since I came up with a thread that I think I have offer some help from my onw experience, I decided to post.

I am the proud, happy and any other adjective you can add of Tristan, (Zoro Lugar do Poco). He is now 4 yrs old. When he was a puppy was diagnosed with giardia. Unfortunately it took us some months to figure out what was wrong with him, and througout this time the ppor fellow had constant diarheas. Sometimes even with blood. We had tried every form of food to fit his intestines. Not one did the trick. Once he was treated and the parasite extinguished, we were advised that the inestines of the dog, would most probably be damaged, and never to return to normal conditions, as such we had to be very careful with his food. We were told to find prebiotics and probiotics to support his digestive function. Although we tried all brands of dry food claiming to contain those ingredients, none did have perfect results. So i googled and found a US company offering a product that saved him! I do not want to make an adverstisement here, however if someone wants to know the name can pm me. It is a powder that you put in the dog's food. That's it. It took of course some 2 yrs of daily treatment without any medications, and now the dog can eat everything and anything from raw food to cooked homemade food and dry food without any signs of diarhea. He is very heathly and we enjoy his company every day.

Keep in mind that this treatment had very good resutls for our dog and I cannot promise that it will have the same on any other dog. I am just letting you know that we went from:" ...I am sorry but the dog cannot eat anything other than cooked meat and cannot exceed 35-38kgs" from the vets to " Now he can eat everything and weighs 45kg".

I have stoped giving it to him on a daily basis for almost a year now and i only give it to him once every two weeks as a supplement to support his intestnal function.

As a supplement can help a lot i think in any case of irritated digestion, even during periods of food change etc.

Glad to be of any help.

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Old 18-11-2011, 12:02   #9
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So ... in this moment his food is exclusively Purina Pro Plan ...
Unfortunately his poop is somewhat liquid some times ... so first question is ... this is normal for a CSW ?
It's quite common for pups to have such problem. It might be just a reaction to changed environment (different set of germs), some kind of allergy, etc. In our case puppy Purina Pro Plan (rice and lamb) helped, together with elimination of poultry and change of all cleaning liquids, washing powders, etc. to very mild ones, so the pup had no contact with strong detergents.

Remember about HD precaution, don't let the pup run/walk up, and especially downstairs, and make sure the floors are not too smooth/polished. Most responsible owners carry the pup on the stairs as long as they are able to. Old carpets and rugs, that you can later throw away are practical, alternatively anti-slip cream for the paws might be used.
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Shadow and all of her pups did very well on Royal Canin Large Breed food, with a minimum of 1/3 daily intake being raw meat and bones (chicken necks are good for the little ones till they get their adult teeth).

Please let us see some new pictures of Karlos soon
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My vet's opinion regarding the raw meet with bones: the collagen from the bones will cause in time steatosis .... and after a period I will have a dog with a diseased liver ...
What do you think ?
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I agree with prey model raw if possible. We have been feeding this for about 3 years now. My CSV has never eaten kibble before. And about your vets' diagnosis on the liver - there are even raw diets proscribed to dogs with liver issues, so ..
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Is not about the meet ... it's about the bones ...
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Please let us see some new pictures of Karlos soon

Sooooooooo

2 months old

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OH MY GOOOSH... Look at those ears!!! So cute!!! (don't worry, they eventually will be up and about in not time, but they are so sweet when the ears are a bit down XD)

Very nice puppy!!!

And very prankster eyes ghgh
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Very nice puppy!!!

And very prankster eyes ghgh
Just what I thought too, Enid That's a little bundle of mischief there...
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Unfortunately his poop is somewhat liquid some times ... so first question is ... this is normal for a CSW ?
My vet recommended me Royal Canin Gastrointestinal ...should I give him ?
It is long story... and there are also several solutions:

- most of the puppies have some problems at new homes (because of different bacteries). Diarrhea can cause even "new" watter. It is something what can not be changed - the puppy must get used to the new environment.

- sometimes it an be caused by worms. Csw puppies eat everathing they find so it is good idea to use some kind of deworming plils which you give the dogs for several days: Aniprazol or Panacur.

- many young Wolfdogs are alergic on different things. Sometimes it is food, sometimes it can be washing powder or washing-up liquid you use for the floor. They only possibility is to find out wat cause the problems and to elimianate it. In the most cases adult dogs can again have contact with the "forbiden" things - the "allergies" dissapear when the dogs get adult...

In many cases simple solutions make miracles: carrots (dried) or oak bark.

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When can I diversify his food ? Now is two months old ...
We give different food already to small pupppies. The basic food is always high quality dry food (without crops) (for example White Wolf, Orijen, Wolfsblut, Tast of the Wild, also Acana) but the puppies get from the beginning also fresh meat (chicken, rabbits, game), yogurt, cheese, eggs, fish oil.
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