AKC Group Classification

Gypsy Wolf · 06-07-2010, 22:51

Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed?
In reality, the breed was designed to be a Border Patrol dog - not a sheep herding dog. That purpose fits into AKC's Working Group, not Herding.
Vlcaks are still in FSS - I would like to petition AKC to move them into the Working Group classification.
Anyone have comments? Support? For or against?

soniakanavle · 07-07-2010, 05:06

I agree. They should be in Working, not Herding.

17-07-2010, 13:34

I totally agree and would support changing it.

(If it would even mean anything, coming from someone who doesn't even own a CsV! haha)

Gypsy Wolf · 17-07-2010, 17:42

<Grin> "OWN" a CsV? I thinks she owns ME! I think I like the "Working Group" because I have to WORK to keep up with her!

Pavel · 18-07-2010, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Lunas Mom

Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed?

FCi have not "Working" group. CsW is in FCI Group I. - Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs). See http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx. FCI sorted breeds most according origin, not actually using. "Working breeds" are breeds from many FCI groups, they need for champion title some exams. But term "working breed" is not officially name by FCI.

GalomyOak · 18-07-2010, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Pavel

FCi have not "Working" group. CsW is in FCI Group I. - Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs). See http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx. FCI sorted breeds most according origin, not actually using. "Working breeds" are breeds from many FCI groups, they need for champion title some exams. But term "working breed" is not officially name by FCI.

That's what I figured. Most of our "working group" breeds fall under FCI molossoids/pinschers, or the herding group. Pavel, do you think, in this case, it would be acceptable with the FCI and the Slovakian and Czech breed clubs for the AKC to switch the breed from the herding to the working group? It doesn't make too much difference now, since the FCI does not recognize the Foundation Stock Service of the AKC for pedigrees. But one day, when we have full AKC recognition and the FCI will reciprocate with us, I don't want there to be any problems.

Thanks!

Marcy

Pavel · 18-07-2010, 20:06

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Originally Posted by GalomyOak

Pavel, do you think, in this case, it would be acceptable with the FCI and the Slovakian and Czech breed clubs for the AKC to switch the breed from the herding to the working group?

I dont know the sorting system of AKC. If you need some help or assistance, you can contact Czech and Slovakian Club and ask there directly.

06-07-2010, 22:51	#1
Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	AKC Group Classification Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed? In reality, the breed was designed to be a Border Patrol dog - not a sheep herding dog. That purpose fits into AKC's Working Group, not Herding. Vlcaks are still in FSS - I would like to petition AKC to move them into the Working Group classification. Anyone have comments? Support? For or against?

07-07-2010, 05:06	#2
soniakanavle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Blanco, Texas Posts: 81	I agree. They should be in Working, not Herding.

17-07-2010, 13:34	#3
Vicky Guest Posts: n/a	I totally agree and would support changing it. (If it would even mean anything, coming from someone who doesn't even own a CsV! haha)

17-07-2010, 17:42	#4
Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	<Grin> "OWN" a CsV? I thinks she owns ME! I think I like the "Working Group" because I have to WORK to keep up with her!