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08-09-2009, 14:29 | #41 | |
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Explanation from the Danish expert who I mentioned earlier is quite different than your statement : HD B = light dysplatic, but normally with no real health issue. ED 1 = light dyspaltic, but normally with no real health issue, depending on which illness who caused this result, as ED is a term used for many different illnesses(not only dysplacia like in HD) in the elbow. Anyway if you think HD C = ED 1 and ED 1 is an ill dog, why do you allow dogs with HD C to stay on the stud dog list ? Greetings Rolf |
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08-09-2009, 14:36 | #42 |
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Please LEAVE this "expert"... Ask better google...
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08-09-2009, 14:45 | #43 |
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08-09-2009, 15:04 | #44 |
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No ... but still better than person who helps you and make BASIC faults and have no idea about basic things...
I'm sorry but I have no time to explain you everything starting with "What is HD and ED and what are the scores".... Even if without it the whole talk is for nothing (because exactly the missing information is the reason why the are so many wholes in your argumentation)... |
08-09-2009, 15:42 | #45 | |
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I did not ask you to explain "what is HD and ED scores" I know what this already from an expert who is NAMED, that seems to be more than you are able to do. Greetings Rolf |
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08-09-2009, 16:39 | #46 |
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when i mas buy new dog, I better buy puppy from HD C one parent but not ED 1. Why? this is explaine in this forum, but I saw, You not wish this understand
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08-09-2009, 18:02 | #47 | |
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Now can someone answer the other question?
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08-09-2009, 18:39 | #48 |
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I do not understand the sense of comparison between HD and ED. Those Problems are governed by a different gene control, HD a polygenism, ED a dominant gene. Different is the criterion for the choice of stallion for the two problems. The value of a stallion HD C depends on the outcome of the entire litter, the descendants, and halfsiblings and ancestor. HD C stallion with his brother is HD D, his halfsibilings is HD E can not be viewed in the same way that HD C stallion from a litter where all the brothers are HD A, whose parents come from good litters. While all dogs with ED 1 to be considered in the same way.
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08-09-2009, 19:27 | #49 | |||
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Maybe, if I quote and paste what is wrote on OFFA they will have no more excuse to say " no it isn't, my vet say or my vet told or I saw it in a pallestry for breeder".
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As I told before and as now you all can read by OFFA, the metod of judge HD is completly different of the metod which judge ED, those ills are different, the part is tooks works different and are different, its simply impossible to even compare the two. Quote:
Who still have doubts, its only took what I wrote before and put togheter with what is wroted here, and i'm sure, will have no more doubts. As we have at moment few cases of ED problems in the breed, as those dogs mainly don't comes from "rare" lines, not have why preserve ED in breeding spreading the problem in a breed that have a small genetic pool. So far ED knowledge seems to be new for CzW breeders, as its not tested in some other breeds ( which didn't means they're not affected). If we took out all dogs without results, the stud dog list will be really small as some dogs are already too old to receive another anesthesie for make this exam (as wolfdogs are not such easy with anesthetics), so, the best way would be put a borderline between the dogs that need to be checked for enter in the database, dogs born in 2007 half/end will have their hips and elbows checked in this year, the ones who born before it probably already had make the check, so, the best will be dogs born in 2008 foward only be accepted in stud list with ED results, and the others remain even without it.
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The definition of B in literature written of some of the inventors of the FCI-Systhem here in Germany is: Normal hip within the genetic range In Germany we have B1 and B2, the difference between A2 and B1 is extremly tight and not visible for non-experts. Ina |
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08-09-2009, 23:00 | #51 | |
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The Displasy is what cause those problems, that will be used as signal of the bad formation. The word displasy means bad formation, so, resuming, its a bad formation that will make the elbow or the hips work wrong, causing some problems that you will find in the X rays. There is the problem os the comparation between HD and ED, a HD dog can be displasic without have any kind of degeneration, if he will futurelly show it or not are other 500, but a ED dog will only get positive when its already have the degeneration.
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