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01-01-2011, 15:48 | #101 |
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As plausible, there are several research groups are studying the thing that does not take any responsibility to make assumptions like that. Scientifically still speaking about a " Unkonow trigger" If i'm well informed, the DNA of both brothers are at one of these research bodies, leave to speculate where it is due. Speculating on these assumptions is the best ground where they sprout the witch-hunts.
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04-01-2011, 12:54 | #102 |
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We are going to have our girl tested for DM soon - are there other tests we should consider at the same time (one trip to to the vet to take blood for sending to Laboklin is better than several). What is ED? Are there known eye problems PRA/PLL?
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04-01-2011, 13:05 | #103 |
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You need blood for DM and Dwarfism and please also to send for the databank in Bern.
ED is Ellbowdisplasia, that is an x-ray to take when you x-ray for HD. There are more genetic eye diseases than PRA, normally the specialists (and it should be done by a specialist) check for all of them at once but this should be done in regular terms, we have to do it on a yearly basis in Germany. Regards Ina |
04-01-2011, 14:43 | #104 |
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Thanks Ina.
We are based in Bulgaria so it may be difficult to find somewhere to do the regular eye checks you describe, but I will look into it. The ED scan will be done soon and I intend to send blood to Utrecht to scan for Dwarfism. I was thinking of sending extra blood to Laboklin for DNA storage - is this the same or different to the databank in Bern (if different, please can you let me have the details so that I can organise this too). |
04-01-2011, 15:15 | #105 |
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Laboklin might also be able to do the dwarfism test, as it is the same test as for German Shepherds. Laboklin stores 2 ml of blood that stays in your property. Bern is doing research on DM and will start a research on our breed as soon as there are enough samples. They store 5ml and more (as much as you send in) that are the property of Bern but will only be used for this project and they do also send blood to other labs if you ask for it. As the storage in Bern is for free I would ask you to send blood to them as well. The storage is cost free.
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04-01-2011, 15:42 | #106 |
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I'll ask Laboklin about the Dwarfism test but I thought I had read that they sent the samples to Utrecht. I will certainly send blood to Bern (maybe instead of Laboklin since they want 33 Euros to store the sample - I'd rather spend that on a test than just for storage...)
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04-01-2011, 19:31 | #107 |
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06-01-2011, 23:34 | #108 |
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Thank you for your answer. With not so many dogs tested yet, were these old dogs tested for a specific reason, like a 'suspicious' line or are the owners responsible and think testing sensible? Too bad they don't want to make the names known, because imho knowing that indeed dogs do not get ill is important information!
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07-01-2011, 04:56 | #109 |
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I would urge those owners to at least submit blood or tissue samples and a pedigree - if not now, perhaps when the dogs die... it would be invaluable for research to know what "triggers" disease symptoms... it would, in theory, save other dogs from suffering...
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07-01-2011, 19:44 | #110 | |
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suddenly an 8 yr old twd is an old dog, people have known about it long, but you've never seen one, and the one, one of the few mentioned in public, is a different strain in your opinion, one that does show early. It is so unclear to me why people would test their dog to get the dm/dm result, a dog long beyond breeding age, and than keep those results under cover, even when these results would show that dm/dm dogs do indeed not have to get ill before the age of say 10. I have only had Saarloos for 11 yrs, and have heard of both SWH and TWD with symptoms that could have been DM. (could have been, because first time i heard of it, little information was found, and the dna test is only recent) So sorry, still don't by dogs getting old all healthy with this disease |
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07-01-2011, 19:48 | #111 |
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Hello Nanouk,
Are you looking for examples of just wolf-dog DM affected? Our Doberman is A/A for DM, he is almost 13 years old on January 31st. He has no problems. A Doberman is of course not a wolfdog but DM is the same genetic marker test. |
08-01-2011, 00:40 | #112 |
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I got today a nice information
Jasna Zlata Palz N/N for DM. ...I will never thank enough Ina and Michael for this Diamond!! As for my Oliver, it is very probable that he is a Carrier like his sister, because Ariminnum Upstream is N/N too. At least I am sure that none of his sons are DM/DM
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08-01-2011, 00:56 | #113 | |
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Studying the dogs who are DM/DM but also Ill should be a must.
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10-01-2011, 13:56 | #114 |
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Résultats officiels de Laboklin :
Ckoo Mah Ook de la Mollynière de Lo'Scale : N /DM Di'Sun Shy Inn de la Mollynière de Lo'Scale : N/N Je suis en attente des résultats des 3 chiots, issus de ce mariage ....que je communiquerai également quels qu'ils soient ... J'ai malheureusement fait les tests de DM, des parents, après la naissance des chiots .... Histoire à suivre |
14-01-2011, 14:10 | #115 |
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21-01-2011, 20:23 | #116 | |
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2 nouveaux chiens, vont être testés à la fin de ce mois ....identité et résultats seront communiqués |
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26-01-2011, 10:57 | #117 |
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26-01-2011, 11:11 | #118 |
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Great News!! Great for Art! (I know two of his children: Penelope and Vladimir Arimminum, and I just love them )
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26-01-2011, 11:17 | #119 |
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26-01-2011, 14:59 | #120 |
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Amber Wolf z Peronówki - N/N
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