WOLFDOGS KENNEL IN INDONESIA?

canislupusdon · 02-11-2006, 02:39

Hello all,

I want to ask you all, do you have any information about where i can find wolfdogs kennel in my country indonesia? especially in surabaya city-east java province? or maybe other countries that located near Indonesia? Thank you very much for your attention all!

regards,

don

Pavel · 02-11-2006, 21:44

Hi,
its me sorry, but nearest kennel to you is in Israel or in Europe.

canislupusdon · 03-11-2006, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavel

Hi,
its me sorry, but nearest kennel to you is in Israel or in Europe.

Hai Pavel,

It seems that the most wolfdogs kennel located in Czech Republic (more than 50 kennels) and the second one is in Italy (more than 40 kennels), so i think i can find the best Wolfdogs in Czech because there will be many choice to choose. Can you help me and tell me how to buy wolfdogs from Czech? CIF Surabaya-Indonesia? and which one is the best wolfdogs kennel and how to choose the great one? Thank you very much Pavel.

Pavel · 03-11-2006, 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by canislupusdon

Can you help me and tell me how to buy wolfdogs from Czech?

Please rear first carefully the section FAQ. There is many practically informations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by canislupusdon

and which one is the best wolfdogs kennel and how to choose the great one?

Sorry, but its impossible. Everybody have other opinions and other wishes. And which kennel is the best ? Its only joke or ? Which TV producer is the best ? And which car producer ? Everybody have somenthing positive and something negative. Its a reason, why we have a database and gallery on our server. Everybody can collect the information and make self the opinion.

Koos · 03-11-2006, 09:32

Hello,

Of course there are a lot of kennels in Czech Republic and in Slowakia. And of course you can make your choise but which one is the best, nobody can tell you that.

It depends of a lot of other things. The best thing is to come over, travel a week around and make your choise by what you have seen.

Also a little kennel can have excellent dogs and why do you want a wolfdog. My opinion is, that a wolfdog is maybe not so happy in your country because of the weather. You also have to think about the healthyness of the dog. These temperatures are not common for this kind of dogs. Of course there are wolves in warmer countries but they also look different. Did you have seen the coat of a CW??? Poor dog when the temperature is over 30 degrees for about 9 month a year.

Maybe I am wrong but to come over and see the CW in his real area, I think that is the best way and then you can decide what you want, but don't think alone of yourself.

I hope I am not too critical and I hope, you make your own right discission but don't buy a CW because they are so beautiful and they look like a wolf. These are not normal dogs and they have a special character, when you come out with them, you have a wonderfull dog but what to do, when there are troubles. Sending back to Europe or ending in ??????

Many regards,

Letty from Holland

Joswolf · 03-11-2006, 20:01

Most people want a wolfdog cause they think he is beautefull and looks like a wolf so that's no problem. The cout can adapt, and look at a chow chow, more cout. A wolfdog is a dog and far from the wolf. The wolf percentage is low and i now dogs that are less easy.
Still it will not be easy to get a wolfdog. Because you life far away, and what do you do when you later find out it's a mistake. Most breathers want theyre puppy's back when you are not able to ceep it. And what to do when you don't want it anymore? Many people in your country do not love dogs or live whit it the way we do. And we want the wolfdog to have a life like we give them. That's why i think it will be hard to get one.
bersalam Jos

Dharkwolf · 05-11-2006, 23:24

This may sound tough but it is how things are - in this instance the kennel which refuses to ship a puppy to Indonesia is probably a good kennel.

There are many reasons for this - but the most important one is probably that good breeders generally like to see their pups go into breeding - and it will be impossible for pups in Indonesia to actually breed.

Tough I know, but I am afraid that is really the way things are.

canislupusdon · 07-11-2006, 09:28

For Pavel, KoosLetydeGraaff, JosWolf, and Dharkwolf, many thanks for all of your opinion. Surely i'll take that as my consideration. Therefore, i think at this moment maybe Wolfdog not suitable for me because the climate condition of my country and the people of my country don't like dogs, especially some group of people. Well, i hope i can go to Czech Republic and goes to all the kennels there, or maybe i can live in Czech to own a wolfdog someday

thanks all

solomonchan · 24-12-2012, 10:12

Hi Don
I am solomon chan from surabaya Insonesia too,i have info to you about CSW kennel near indonesia , the first CVW kennel in Asia , kennel name : SIAM CROWN KENNEL,thailand

Siam Crown · 20-05-2013, 12:40

Just saw this thread and the mention of our kennel as a CSV kennel. We have a number of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs which were brought in as part of a training and behavioral research project. As part of the project we bred two litters to learn about early socialization impact. We think the CSV is an interesting breed however, we are not a commercial kennel most of our activities are either breed research or sports training and the promotion of dog sports we do not breed Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs for sale.
Mike
Siam Crown Kennel

avgrunn · 20-05-2013, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siam Crown

As part of the project we bred two litters to learn about early socialization impact.

i just have to ask, out of sheer curiosity...did the puppies stay with you or did you somehow gave the puppies to people on the condition of raising them the way you want and training them? Not judging or anything I'm just really curious since you wrote that you're not selling them. I've seen the films from your trainings and I really liked them

Siam Crown · 20-05-2013, 17:37

In the first litter the puppies stayed with us for an initial 6 months of socialization and training. In the first litter there were only 4. Two have remained with us, two were placed with people who train with us regularly. The second litter consisted of two retentions and has involved placements but only with people who train with us, and accept regular support and observation visits.
Regards
Mike

avgrunn · 20-05-2013, 18:29

Wow, this is really cool, seriously

I wish you all the best and lots od success in trainings

z Peronówki · 18-10-2016, 09:14

I this case I suggest to import a puppy from outside.
I know it can be more expensive but at least you can import a PUREBREED puppy: many Saarloos-mixes with fake FCI pedigree and dogs of dubious origin have been imported to Asia from european puppy-mills....

Before paying advantage money/picking up the puppy - check the parents in the database (http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase) to be sure that they are really pure Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs...

02-11-2006, 02:39	#1
canislupusdon Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: surabaya Posts: 3	WOLFDOGS KENNEL IN INDONESIA? Hello all, I want to ask you all, do you have any information about where i can find wolfdogs kennel in my country indonesia? especially in surabaya city-east java province? or maybe other countries that located near Indonesia? Thank you very much for your attention all! regards, don __________________ -Better that i should wrong the world than that world should wrong me-

05-11-2006, 23:24	#7
Dharkwolf Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brussels Posts: 201	This may sound tough but it is how things are - in this instance the kennel which refuses to ship a puppy to Indonesia is probably a good kennel. There are many reasons for this - but the most important one is probably that good breeders generally like to see their pups go into breeding - and it will be impossible for pups in Indonesia to actually breed. Tough I know, but I am afraid that is really the way things are. __________________

07-11-2006, 09:28	#8
canislupusdon Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: surabaya Posts: 3	For Pavel, KoosLetydeGraaff, JosWolf, and Dharkwolf, many thanks for all of your opinion. Surely i'll take that as my consideration. Therefore, i think at this moment maybe Wolfdog not suitable for me because the climate condition of my country and the people of my country don't like dogs, especially some group of people. Well, i hope i can go to Czech Republic and goes to all the kennels there, or maybe i can live in Czech to own a wolfdog someday thanks all __________________ -Better that i should wrong the world than that world should wrong me-

24-12-2012, 10:12	#9
solomonchan Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Indonesia,East Java,Surabaya city Posts: 2	Wolfdog in surabaya Indonesia Hi Don I am solomon chan from surabaya Insonesia too,i have info to you about CSW kennel near indonesia , the first CVW kennel in Asia , kennel name : SIAM CROWN KENNEL,thailand __________________ SHALOM GOD BLESS YOU SOLOMON CHAN

20-05-2013, 18:29	#13
avgrunn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trójmiasto Posts: 1,756	Wow, this is really cool, seriously I wish you all the best and lots od success in trainings __________________ Ja & Urciowaty

02-11-2006, 21:44	#2
Pavel Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190	Hi, its me sorry, but nearest kennel to you is in Israel or in Europe.

03-11-2006, 09:32	#5
Koos Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 731	Hello, Of course there are a lot of kennels in Czech Republic and in Slowakia. And of course you can make your choise but which one is the best, nobody can tell you that. It depends of a lot of other things. The best thing is to come over, travel a week around and make your choise by what you have seen. Also a little kennel can have excellent dogs and why do you want a wolfdog. My opinion is, that a wolfdog is maybe not so happy in your country because of the weather. You also have to think about the healthyness of the dog. These temperatures are not common for this kind of dogs. Of course there are wolves in warmer countries but they also look different. Did you have seen the coat of a CW??? Poor dog when the temperature is over 30 degrees for about 9 month a year. Maybe I am wrong but to come over and see the CW in his real area, I think that is the best way and then you can decide what you want, but don't think alone of yourself. I hope I am not too critical and I hope, you make your own right discission but don't buy a CW because they are so beautiful and they look like a wolf. These are not normal dogs and they have a special character, when you come out with them, you have a wonderfull dog but what to do, when there are troubles. Sending back to Europe or ending in ?????? Many regards, Letty from Holland

03-11-2006, 20:01	#6
Joswolf Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 757	Most people want a wolfdog cause they think he is beautefull and looks like a wolf so that's no problem. The cout can adapt, and look at a chow chow, more cout. A wolfdog is a dog and far from the wolf. The wolf percentage is low and i now dogs that are less easy. Still it will not be easy to get a wolfdog. Because you life far away, and what do you do when you later find out it's a mistake. Most breathers want theyre puppy's back when you are not able to ceep it. And what to do when you don't want it anymore? Many people in your country do not love dogs or live whit it the way we do. And we want the wolfdog to have a life like we give them. That's why i think it will be hard to get one. bersalam Jos

20-05-2013, 12:40	#10
Siam Crown Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 3	Just saw this thread and the mention of our kennel as a CSV kennel. We have a number of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs which were brought in as part of a training and behavioral research project. As part of the project we bred two litters to learn about early socialization impact. We think the CSV is an interesting breed however, we are not a commercial kennel most of our activities are either breed research or sports training and the promotion of dog sports we do not breed Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs for sale. Mike Siam Crown Kennel

20-05-2013, 17:37	#12
Siam Crown Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 3	In the first litter the puppies stayed with us for an initial 6 months of socialization and training. In the first litter there were only 4. Two have remained with us, two were placed with people who train with us regularly. The second litter consisted of two retentions and has involved placements but only with people who train with us, and accept regular support and observation visits. Regards Mike

18-10-2016, 09:14	#14
z Peronówki VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Późna Posts: 6,983	I this case I suggest to import a puppy from outside. I know it can be more expensive but at least you can import a PUREBREED puppy: many Saarloos-mixes with fake FCI pedigree and dogs of dubious origin have been imported to Asia from european puppy-mills.... Before paying advantage money/picking up the puppy - check the parents in the database (http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase) to be sure that they are really pure Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs... __________________ . 'Z PERONÓWKI' FACEBOOK GROUP

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