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Old 25-06-2011, 18:34   #1
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Default French dogs whitout pedigree :(

One problem more...



http://www.keltainenporssi.net/ilmoi...054927?rowId=1
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Old 25-06-2011, 20:04   #2
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But maybe it is not a pure CsV Better one litter whitout, than a litter whit false pedigree´s, ringht

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Old 27-06-2011, 00:42   #3
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A news clip about the couple and their business in Finnish TV news:
http://areena.yle.fi/video/1555399
I think there is a litter of wolfdogs running around on the background in a pack of Husky or Malamute pups.
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Old 27-06-2011, 02:38   #4
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A news clip about the couple and their business in Finnish TV news:
http://areena.yle.fi/video/1555399
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"French entrepreneurs living in a buss.

French couple Nathalie Delgado and Stephane Sophikitis moved to Autti, Rovaniemi in september with their two children. They now run their own sled dog business, La Piste Nordic,
-Northern trail."

(Narrator):
~"At the end of a secluded forrest road the visitors are welcomed by a pack of over 30 dogs.
Here a French family has set up their home. Since the beginning of December they have made sled dog safaries for customers, -especially for French tourists.
Flatter terrain, and a long snow season attracted them to Finland."

~(Nathalie Delgado):
"The idea was born two years ago. We made a caravan trip across Finland in March.
We were hoping to find a place somewhere in between Rovaniemi,-Ranua, -Ivalo, and Kuusamo. And we found Autti."

~
(Narrator):
"Since september, the home of the family has been an old buss. They sold their house and large barn in Southwestern France, and bought 14 acre forested land in Autti. The freezing cold weather has not scared them off. What has surpriced them is the friendliness of the Lappish people."

~
(Nathalie Delgado):
"The villagers have been very hospitable. We've never met such friendly people. In France we were concidered hecklers. Here the villagers help us with everything and often invites us to visit them and comes here to visit us. We've even been able to discuss about everything; politics, farming etc. And in English!"

~(Narrator):
"The older one of their two children will start preschool next year. The couple are planning that the old buss is eventually going to be replaced with a house. They've also scheduled to build more of the nomadic Mongolian yurts that they have for housing the customers."

~(Nathalie Delgado):
"We are planning to settle here for a long time."
~(Stephane Sophikitis): "-For the rest of our lives. If everything goes well, we're going to stay here for the rest of our lives."
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Old 27-06-2011, 08:03   #5
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Originally posted by Jennin Lauma :
~(Nathalie Delgado):
"We are planning to settle here for a long time."
~(Stephane Sophikitis): "-For the rest of our lives. If everything goes well, we're going to stay here for the rest of our lives."

Hi Jenni - seems that some other people have the same dream like me ....
when I first saw your homepage.

And they really try to make it become true !

Hmmm...may be I should think about that idea again seriously ?

Best regards, Uli alias Silvester

Ps: I just sended private mail to you here.
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Old 27-06-2011, 18:07   #6
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I think there is no problem for this puppy (pedigree problem)

The parents are the real one, this family is living part of the year here in France (about 150 km from my house) and also in other country.

The dogs work in mushing activity. The only problem is the black mask remaining from Montagrino blood line... and nothing more (no cheating)

Maybe haven't registered the pedigree in time... of maybe they haven't prepared an "export" pedigree to sell the pupp out of France.

So.... don't look for problem where there is no problem...
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Old 27-06-2011, 18:48   #7
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So.... don't look for problem where there is no problem...
But what contribution to the breed does it make, to make unregistered puppies?
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Old 27-06-2011, 18:48   #8
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Every CSV whitout pedigree is problem. Both parents are registered in FIN Kennel club but why puppies not?

Also this breed is not for all peoples and we have many who want mixing CSV to husky, malamute and "wolfdogs whit out wolf"
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Old 27-06-2011, 19:39   #9
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I think there is no problem for this puppy (pedigree problem)

The parents are the real one, this family is living part of the year here in France (about 150 km from my house) and also in other country.

The dogs work in mushing activity. The only problem is the black mask remaining from Montagrino blood line... and nothing more (no cheating)

Maybe haven't registered the pedigree in time... of maybe they haven't prepared an "export" pedigree to sell the pupp out of France.

So.... don't look for problem where there is no problem...
this puppy have moore problem not only black mask - my dear breeder
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Old 27-06-2011, 20:06   #10
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Both parents have got FCI pedigree by France, i suppose the litter could be registered in France ... (i saw this litter announced here in France and i think )

You also know that if you don't ask for export pedigree, you will not able to obtain pedigree in the country you send dogs ?

I only imagine there is an administrative problem and no cheating or mix...

BUT in fact maybe it is a SORCERER HUNTING against french breeders ????

Are you sure all CWs borning in others countries all have got pedigree ?

What about MUTARAs... Did they come from France ? ... and the first mixes from France ???
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BUT in fact maybe it is a SORCERER HUNTING against french breeders ????
Yes yes begin now cry and jumping - bad people from 3th lands want kill french greats breeders. maybe better see reality problem - puppy without pedigree, without HD parents results and moore moore moore, I understand Satu, she are very angry for this and she have a right.
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this puppy are from this same line who born this two nices dogs:

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Old 27-06-2011, 20:50   #12
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I don´t want attack at all. Only telling what happend in here. Because making puppies whitout papers is not breeding...

In france are good breeders also but our rules says FCI breeder can´t make litter whitout pedigree. ( not mixed dogs at all)
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Old 27-06-2011, 20:53   #13
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They have export pedigrees, whitout export pedigree you can register your dog to FIN kennel club.

Here you can see.... http://jalostus.kennelliitto.fi/frmT...rat.aspx?R=332
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I don´t want attack at all. Only telling what happend in here. Because making puppies whitout papers is not breeding...

In france are good breeders also but our rules says FCI breeder can´t make litter whitout pedigree. ( not mixed dogs at all)
True!!! if this puppy go without pedigree he mus be sterilisate in "breeders" home. but I think this not be to make and free without money
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Originally posted by Jennin Lauma :
~(Nathalie Delgado):
"We are planning to settle here for a long time."
~(Stephane Sophikitis): "-For the rest of our lives. If everything goes well, we're going to stay here for the rest of our lives."

Hi Jenni - seems that some other people have the same dream like me ....
when I first saw your homepage.

And they really try to make it become true !

Hmmm...may be I should think about that idea again seriously ?

Best regards, Uli alias Silvester
Welcome! I can show you a nice place where you can park your buss.
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Old 28-06-2011, 10:03   #16
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I can rent one parking are also... and i can rent pure csv in your sleigh team.
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