SVP1 ako podmienka k dosiahnutiu chovnosti psa - Page 5

Pavol1217 · 28-05-2013, 17:03

Frederika - nech sa páči, vyvijajte iniciativu a snažte sa...

JanaM. · 28-05-2013, 17:03

budeme sa snazit, vsetci! teda okrem vas pan Pavol, vsak?

Pavol1217 · 28-05-2013, 17:06

Jana - pán Pavol, to už ako keby súťažím v nejakom dieli "Páli vám to"

dávam si za záväzok aby som niektorých ludi v buducnosti naucil prijat aj cudzí názor, aj ked s ním nesúhlasia a hned sa nad ním nerozčulovat

JanaM. · 28-05-2013, 17:07

to "pan Pavol", to aby ste si uvedomili, ze sme si nepotykali

...a vy mi veselo tykate...ale v pohode, mozme si tykat

...tak cau, ja som jana, s priatelom mame Cifru Vlčí démon..skusim to tak, ako ty

Cifra je prekrasna, uzasna, super vyzor, kratke usko, kratky chvost, svetle dobre uhlene oko, pieskova farba, a hlavne super povaha! hrava, odvazna, zvedava, priatelska, ludom sa velmi tesi

ospevovat viem, co povies? ale vazne taka je

...prijimam tvoj nazor, aj nazor kazdeho ineho, ale rozculuje ma, preco ides takmer proti vsetkym a nezmieris sa s tym...nazor mozes mat, ten ti nikto neberie, ale nespisuj tu prosim ta peticie a ine blbosti, ale pritlac k muru Edit ..hoci aj doslovne!

Pavol1217 · 28-05-2013, 17:13

teraz to mozno vypada ze su to len moje nazory, ale musim ta opravit, je nas viac, akurat ze malokto to chce aj takto verejne... a s cifrou suhlasim, na fotkach je pekna, aj ked ju osobne nepoznam a neviem sa vyjadrit k tomu, ako sa chová... ja si tu propagujem samozrejme aj svojich psov, pytam sa co je na tom spatné? ved fotografujte, kamerujte, vkladajte sem prispevky, komentujte, to sa mam zato hned na vas hnevat? nikto nikoho neobmedzuje propagovanim svojich nazorov, ked sa vam to nepaci, tak staci stlacit Alt plus F4, potvrdit enterom a PC sa vypne...

Exor · 28-05-2013, 17:14

Podľa mňa blbosti nevypisuje. Poukazuje na otvorené problémy, ktoré sa môžu
stať aj nikomu inému. Rovnako, ako má právo na svoj názor, má právo aj
založiť petíciu. chce skrátka vedieť, či jeho názor zdieľa dostatok
chovateľov. Diskusia na tieto témy je na mieste a nie len priamo na tábore.
Mnoho sa dá vysvetliť aj takto a možno už tu niekto zmení názor.

JanaM. · 28-05-2013, 17:15

a na bonitacii sme si vysluzili potlesk, za najlepsie predvedenie pocas bonitacie, chovala sa ako cukricek

vdaka patri aj Lukasovi Bacovi, kt. nam pomahal s uchovnenim ...ale teraz sa uz vazne len chvalim

vlastne propagujem svoju kraaaasnu suku

jason.watts · 28-05-2013, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by leila

Hi, the discusion is about canceling the endurance run as a stud term in slovakia. kennel z dubnicanky wants to cancel it. the others want, that this exams stays, as it has a reason, why is it a term of stud... kennel z dubnicanky means, that it is not nessesary to have this kind of exam. the others have arguments, that we are the garant of the breed, so our terms must stay like this or do only small changes. as the breed is a working breed, it should have an exam for working dogs. and SVP - the endurance is some kind of exam of work.

That is not the way i read this. I do not think Kennel z Dubnicanky wants to cancel anything, SVP can stay, but not as required exam, more as voluntary one

leila · 28-05-2013, 20:22

he wanted to cancel it at all. i think, as many here can see, the only problem is, that his two females didnt past the exam...

jefta · 28-05-2013, 20:23

Have you got some statistic about the results? As I know the best results belongs to forgerine dogs where this test is not obligated for breeding.

saschia · 28-05-2013, 20:23

It's not about who is the fastest - that's usually somebody who likes biking with their dog. It is about doing the 40 km and doing them in the time limit. Personally, I was satisfied with doing 40 km even out of time limit, but I think having the endurance run is good for the breed overall...

borislav · 28-05-2013, 20:24

Personally, I was satisfied with doing 40 km even out of time limit

jason.watts · 28-05-2013, 21:36

The time limit and whole SVP exam is there for a reason as you guys keep saying, therefore you should not be satisfied till you make it, otherwise your dogs are still not fit for breeding. I don't see the point of your satisfaction...

jefta · 28-05-2013, 21:37

Personally I don't like this test. It shows only that csv have nothing in common with I-st group, more with V-th...

borislav · 28-05-2013, 21:37

Pavol - zdieľate rovnaký názor ako Katarzyna Gawęcka ?

wolfin · 28-05-2013, 21:38

no jefta wilczaki nie pracuja jak husky tez, nie maja tej checi cos ciagnac za soba, na dodatek bylo robione na strozowanie i wynoscliwosc w miejscu pracy

dla tego i jest zrobiony ten egzamin, co z tego ze owczarki maja te swoje 20 kilometrow ktore duza ilosc i tak ledwo zdaje na pieszo

yukidomari · 28-05-2013, 21:39

from an outsider's point of view - the idea of the test is worthwhile for me; for German Shepherd Dogs the Ausdauerprüfung (AD) test measures only 20km and some dogs are not able to do it (!).. due to not always poor hips and bad conditioning but also poor structure. completing the exam within the time limit technically fulfills the requirements of the breed's parent club, but having a dog which CAN do the distance +/- the time limit is fulfills the intent, in my humble opinion.

anyway, I wish to participate in SVP events and am looking into how they can be set up here.

wolfin · 28-05-2013, 21:40

yes I speak about this too

check % heavy type CSV - they almost not make this exam- question why

jefta · 28-05-2013, 21:40

Ale svp nie sprawdza wytrwalosci w pracy tylko wymuszonym biegu.

saschia · 28-05-2013, 21:41

Jason - I was satisfied as a not exam, but endurance run, and by the way, my second bitch has the exam - Excellent (below 3:20), and the first did not finish the 100km run just because I was so tired at 60 km my brain stopped working, I pushed myself untill 75 but that was the end for me.

28-05-2013, 17:03	#81
Pavol1217 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dubnica nad Váhom Posts: 105	Frederika - nech sa páči, vyvijajte iniciativu a snažte sa...

28-05-2013, 17:03	#82
JanaM. Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 23	budeme sa snazit, vsetci! teda okrem vas pan Pavol, vsak?

28-05-2013, 17:06	#83
Pavol1217 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dubnica nad Váhom Posts: 105	Jana - pán Pavol, to už ako keby súťažím v nejakom dieli "Páli vám to" dávam si za záväzok aby som niektorých ludi v buducnosti naucil prijat aj cudzí názor, aj ked s ním nesúhlasia a hned sa nad ním nerozčulovat

28-05-2013, 17:07	#84
JanaM. Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 23	to "pan Pavol", to aby ste si uvedomili, ze sme si nepotykali ...a vy mi veselo tykate...ale v pohode, mozme si tykat ...tak cau, ja som jana, s priatelom mame Cifru Vlčí démon..skusim to tak, ako ty Cifra je prekrasna, uzasna, super vyzor, kratke usko, kratky chvost, svetle dobre uhlene oko, pieskova farba, a hlavne super povaha! hrava, odvazna, zvedava, priatelska, ludom sa velmi tesi ospevovat viem, co povies? ale vazne taka je ...prijimam tvoj nazor, aj nazor kazdeho ineho, ale rozculuje ma, preco ides takmer proti vsetkym a nezmieris sa s tym...nazor mozes mat, ten ti nikto neberie, ale nespisuj tu prosim ta peticie a ine blbosti, ale pritlac k muru Edit ..hoci aj doslovne!

28-05-2013, 17:13	#85
Pavol1217 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dubnica nad Váhom Posts: 105	teraz to mozno vypada ze su to len moje nazory, ale musim ta opravit, je nas viac, akurat ze malokto to chce aj takto verejne... a s cifrou suhlasim, na fotkach je pekna, aj ked ju osobne nepoznam a neviem sa vyjadrit k tomu, ako sa chová... ja si tu propagujem samozrejme aj svojich psov, pytam sa co je na tom spatné? ved fotografujte, kamerujte, vkladajte sem prispevky, komentujte, to sa mam zato hned na vas hnevat? nikto nikoho neobmedzuje propagovanim svojich nazorov, ked sa vam to nepaci, tak staci stlacit Alt plus F4, potvrdit enterom a PC sa vypne...

28-05-2013, 17:14	#86
Exor Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 12	Podľa mňa blbosti nevypisuje. Poukazuje na otvorené problémy, ktoré sa môžu stať aj nikomu inému. Rovnako, ako má právo na svoj názor, má právo aj založiť petíciu. chce skrátka vedieť, či jeho názor zdieľa dostatok chovateľov. Diskusia na tieto témy je na mieste a nie len priamo na tábore. Mnoho sa dá vysvetliť aj takto a možno už tu niekto zmení názor.

28-05-2013, 17:15	#87
JanaM. Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 23	a na bonitacii sme si vysluzili potlesk, za najlepsie predvedenie pocas bonitacie, chovala sa ako cukricek vdaka patri aj Lukasovi Bacovi, kt. nam pomahal s uchovnenim ...ale teraz sa uz vazne len chvalim vlastne propagujem svoju kraaaasnu suku

28-05-2013, 20:22	#89
leila http://www.tobrok.sk Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nitra - Mojmírovce, Slovakia Posts: 550	he wanted to cancel it at all. i think, as many here can see, the only problem is, that his two females didnt past the exam...

28-05-2013, 20:23	#90
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	Have you got some statistic about the results? As I know the best results belongs to forgerine dogs where this test is not obligated for breeding.

28-05-2013, 20:23	#91
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	It's not about who is the fastest - that's usually somebody who likes biking with their dog. It is about doing the 40 km and doing them in the time limit. Personally, I was satisfied with doing 40 km even out of time limit, but I think having the endurance run is good for the breed overall...

28-05-2013, 20:24	#92
borislav Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nitra Posts: 84	Personally, I was satisfied with doing 40 km even out of time limit

28-05-2013, 21:36	#93
jason.watts Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3	The time limit and whole SVP exam is there for a reason as you guys keep saying, therefore you should not be satisfied till you make it, otherwise your dogs are still not fit for breeding. I don't see the point of your satisfaction...

28-05-2013, 21:37	#94
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	Personally I don't like this test. It shows only that csv have nothing in common with I-st group, more with V-th...

28-05-2013, 21:38	#96
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	no jefta wilczaki nie pracuja jak husky tez, nie maja tej checi cos ciagnac za soba, na dodatek bylo robione na strozowanie i wynoscliwosc w miejscu pracy dla tego i jest zrobiony ten egzamin, co z tego ze owczarki maja te swoje 20 kilometrow ktore duza ilosc i tak ledwo zdaje na pieszo

28-05-2013, 21:39	#97
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	from an outsider's point of view - the idea of the test is worthwhile for me; for German Shepherd Dogs the Ausdauerprüfung (AD) test measures only 20km and some dogs are not able to do it (!).. due to not always poor hips and bad conditioning but also poor structure. completing the exam within the time limit technically fulfills the requirements of the breed's parent club, but having a dog which CAN do the distance +/- the time limit is fulfills the intent, in my humble opinion. anyway, I wish to participate in SVP events and am looking into how they can be set up here.

28-05-2013, 21:40	#98
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	yes I speak about this too check % heavy type CSV - they almost not make this exam- question why

28-05-2013, 21:41	#100
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	Jason - I was satisfied as a not exam, but endurance run, and by the way, my second bitch has the exam - Excellent (below 3:20), and the first did not finish the 100km run just because I was so tired at 60 km my brain stopped working, I pushed myself untill 75 but that was the end for me.