What is this?

massimo · 08/09/2009, 01h47

Guess what this is....

Pics are from a friend... You wish you owned a wolf too? no...it's just a product italian breeder...
Yep...that's what Italian breeding can do...
massimo

Backman · 08/09/2009, 05h56

Wow, Very very beautiful !!

Hanka · 08/09/2009, 10h37

What is official name of this............wolfdog?

massimo · 08/09/2009, 10h42

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What is official name of this............wolfdog?

it has Od Uhosti blood in it too...

Nothing to do with Mutara, if you are curious!!
Only problem is that the same bloodline of many many other CSW in italy...but never till now have I seen one come out like this.
For your curiosity
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/d10707.html

Hanka · 08/09/2009, 10h53

Wow, I never thought it has Mutara blood

, because this animal is nice

.
But when I see in it´s pedigree some names of kennel, I don´t belive it is pure breed wolfdog.

massimo · 08/09/2009, 11h01

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Wow, I never thought it has Mutara blood

, because this animal is nice

.
But when I see in it´s pedigree some names of kennel, I don´t belive it is pure breed wolfdog.

??
Hanka...please...no witchhunt!

what kennel don't you believe? Od Uhosti?

Trust me... it's wolfdog. Hard to believe I know... but it's the truth.
massimo

Hanka · 08/09/2009, 11h12

I did named

. And in it´s pedigree is muuuuch kennels.....
Yes, I belive my breeding, because I know parents on 100%. But not only my breeding. I belive almost all czech kennels.
I know more dogs with pedigree of wolfdog and I know they are not pure breed wolfdogs.....
Please: od Úhoště

starjumper · 08/09/2009, 11h24

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Wow, I never thought it has Mutara blood

, because this animal is nice

.

I agree...

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But when I see in it´s pedigree some names of kennel, I don´t belive it is pure breed wolfdog.

...but this is really an unfair way of thinking.

You can't blame and damage a kennel (casa della rosa) just because they take their dogs from passo del lupo ten years ago... when things like mutaras (that are not an italian idea

) didn't even exist... look at the dates, PdL was at their first litters...

I own neither a "casa della rosa" nor a "pdl" wolfdog. It's just unfair.

Hanka · 08/09/2009, 11h38

I did not write some name of kennel.

starjumper · 08/09/2009, 12h01

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I did not write some name of kennel.

ok, right, that was my interpretation, so... what kennels are you talking about?
It seems everybody knows everything, but obviously nobody can prove what he's saying.

Now I'm not accusing you, Hanka, but you know, I'm tired of reading about Italian absurd bonitation, about italian criminal kennels, about italian fake HD results... I think you're victims of Hollywood

because some Italians may be cunning, but you can't condemn a whole country.

Well, as long as I can see, everybody condemn every country but theirs. That's cooperation

Jeez, I always disliked this country, I'm not even a "purebred Italian"

but you can't always generalize.

leila · 08/09/2009, 12h27

would like to see other puppies from this litter...

Hanka · 08/09/2009, 12h50

No, I no generalize

. In italian is a few kennels what i like and belive they to do breeding very well. Especially one kennel. Hi hi, but I will not named, of course.

wolflinx · 08/09/2009, 12h54

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would like to see other puppies from this litter...

http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9689
Dayla:
http://www.wolfdog.org/ita/dbase/d10709.html

leila · 08/09/2009, 13h40

well, every photo is from a puppy or a young dog, nothing special to see, but this one is realy beautiful. still think that "also a blind chick must find a corn once". i do not think every ITA breeder is bad, NO WAY!, but i dont like that fact with the parents secrects, in most of the litters, that the dog must do "nothing" to be a stud dog ect. i like the father of this dog, found him here a longer time ago and thought, he is beautful... well, just like Oskar said, its time, that the other countries make theire own lines...

massimo · 08/09/2009, 15h17

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still think that "also a blind chick must find a corn once".

meaning that an Italian breeder can make a good dog by chance or by mistake too....correct?

This is all very funny...

I personally would NOT have made that litter, maybe the breeding rules in CZ and SK would NOT have allowed it.

But also the CZ and SK rules would not have allowed my own dog to be born, Oliver Passo del Lupo, because his father is too short (64.5) and too shy.
Funny isn't it...those are actually the OPPOSITE characteristics of my dog...

Who is right?
I don't know...i'm not a breeder, i don't earn any money from dogs... i just love this breed.

massimo · 08/09/2009, 15h19

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Please: od Úhoště

Sorry, i don't have keyboard with czech characters

I like you very much Hanka...but I'd like you more if you said clearly what you think instead of "supposing" or "hinting".
massimo

Rona · 08/09/2009, 17h37

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Who is right?
I don't know...i'm not a breeder, i don't earn any money from dogs... i just love this breed.

I feel exactly the same, Massimo.

I belive the greatest virtue of our vlcaks is not their looks, size, health, character, etc. but the fact they constantly, consistently and with all their might teach us modesty

... and we love them all the same...

leila · 08/09/2009, 18h36

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meaning that an Italian breeder can make a good dog by chance or by mistake too....correct?

This is all very funny...

I personally would NOT have made that litter, maybe the breeding rules in CZ and SK would NOT have allowed it.

But also the CZ and SK rules would not have allowed my own dog to be born, Oliver Passo del Lupo, because his father is too short (64.5) and too shy.
Funny isn't it...those are actually the OPPOSITE characteristics of my dog...

Who is right?
I don't know...i'm not a breeder, i don't earn any money from dogs... i just love this breed.

i mean, in ITA or FRA use breeders dogs, who are for breeding everithing but not plus. when i look at the dogs i must stay o moment and look at it twice, to recognize a wolfdog in it... or they have a bad HD result... nevermind, only my thoughts and i DO NOT say everyone is bad and only SVK or CZ dogs are the best... NO! i know many dogs not from this countries who are beautiful!

i know, its on the clubs in the country. what do they alow or not. think that breeding of CSW in ITA, FRA,... is too benevolent.