The Future Of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs?

koboldine · 06-04-2012, 21:44

Thank you, Ursula, for clarifying your point.

This video shows sequences of fear, panik up to stupor to an extend you will only find in dogs which are genetically more afrait of human company, more drawn to live on their own without human interferance. But I see no point in breeding dogs with such a high level of "shyness", because they will always have to live in a human dominated surrounding...

However, badly socialised dogs - been kept at a humans home with contact to a certain group of humans- will still, even in fear, be contactable unless they have been deprived to an extend beyond breaking. So, sure this can be done to "man's best friend" - but I doubt that the owners of the shown dogs mistreat them at home.
Often, the difference is not easy to recognise if one works with dogs living in Human society, because even people aren't used to this kind of behavior.
If one knows or works with CwD with this "personality trait", it becomes more ob obvious - no offence meant.

And...yes...I do work and live with such dogs, and I am glad that at least younger generations of CwD aren't handicaped in this way...

julie9471 · 07-04-2012, 12:34

That of lies... The breeder has never said that these dogs were f3, but are purebreed , Ina it is really necessary to stop the defamation, that you have your opinions, even if they are unfounded ok, but to lie, not at all. It is really necessary to have a very sad life to arrive there.

wolfin · 07-04-2012, 12:45

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Originally Posted by julie9471

That of lies... The breeder has never said that these dogs were f3, but are purebreed , Ina it is really necessary to stop the defamation, that you have your opinions, even if they are unfounded ok, but to lie, not at all. It is really necessary to have a very sad life to arrive there.

about lie- for you and Ursula they are typical CSV in anatomy and behavior? not need info about F3 when all who a little know this breed, anatomy, genetic, and can read a pedigree see who say true and who lie.

Mikael · 08-04-2012, 00:20

You can also read more about all of this here
>>> http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthr...27758&langid=1

Yes, I agree it looks wrong to put up a video like this, but the video was not just filmed for no reason...

Best regards / Mikael

06-04-2012, 21:44	#1
koboldine Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 472	Thank you, Ursula, for clarifying your point. This video shows sequences of fear, panik up to stupor to an extend you will only find in dogs which are genetically more afrait of human company, more drawn to live on their own without human interferance. But I see no point in breeding dogs with such a high level of "shyness", because they will always have to live in a human dominated surrounding... However, badly socialised dogs - been kept at a humans home with contact to a certain group of humans- will still, even in fear, be contactable unless they have been deprived to an extend beyond breaking. So, sure this can be done to "man's best friend" - but I doubt that the owners of the shown dogs mistreat them at home. Often, the difference is not easy to recognise if one works with dogs living in Human society, because even people aren't used to this kind of behavior. If one knows or works with CwD with this "personality trait", it becomes more ob obvious - no offence meant. And...yes...I do work and live with such dogs, and I am glad that at least younger generations of CwD aren't handicaped in this way... __________________ Kein Mensch darf mir meine Schwächen so deutlich zeigen, wie meine (Wolfs-)Hunde es tun.

08-04-2012, 00:20	#4
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	You can also read more about all of this here >>> http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthr...27758&langid=1 Yes, I agree it looks wrong to put up a video like this, but the video was not just filmed for no reason... Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

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07-04-2012, 12:34	#2
julie9471 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 14	That of lies... The breeder has never said that these dogs were f3, but are purebreed , Ina it is really necessary to stop the defamation, that you have your opinions, even if they are unfounded ok, but to lie, not at all. It is really necessary to have a very sad life to arrive there.