Mixes tchec

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

If you think, that a general judge that has a group of dogs with pedigrees in the ring is the right person to solve this, or that the problem is about beauty of dogs it is indeed a waste of time to discuss with you.
If you cannot understand that faked pedigrees endanger a breed why do you discuss at all.
The proof that those dogs are offspring of their parents is useless as long as there is not proof that their grandparents are the ones in the pedigrees. Issar´s owner will come to Europe in summer, so this problem can be solved, to solve the de La Louve Blanche Problem it needs a lot more.
I understand the general wolfdog.org problem, I don´t feel comfortable with this rumors too, and I don´t believe the rumors about the Y-litter Crying wolf are true but I am very sure the rumors about the French dogs are true because I could see some of those dogs with my own eyes and yes, I am a better judge of this breed than most general FCI-judges cause I know hundreds of CSW since 15 years now.
And if you can´t live with a discussion you shouldn´t start it.

Ina

[ArImInIuM]

So do not waste time with me, there were very many things made ​​here!

http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18389

and there will be others, now when I see some dogs with long hair like French much more than the German Shepherd of Czechoslovakian Wolfdog, I look at my dog ​​with as much admiration as ever.
there's Czechoslovakian Wolfdog for everybody, good, not so good, I chose a look that suits me, whether you like it, it's YOUR problem, not mine.
marriage that bothers you, it's YOUR problem, me I like it and I would defend my dog​​, be it "" MIX "" do not ask me no worries, the narrowness of mind of some will not make me change mind.
Camp on your ideas, I stay on mine.
you need a bone? Take this dog, there will be other issues far more important for the preservation of a race that some dogs atypical.
but if you think a simple little French breeder can single-handedly destroy an entire race, it is giving much more importance than it really.
and finally I'm like you I find this very sterile discution. Let the small farmer ignorant I am watching my dog ​​with love and devotion as I would with any dog​​.
to the wise

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

This discussion is not about atypical looks but about crossing with AWHs. Faked pedigrees are fraud and nothing nicer. When you think that fraud is o.k. due to your egoistic reason of having a dog that you admire, well that is as long as you don´t breed or show it your problem. But when you tell people that it is a purebred you become a part of the fraud. And fraud is a criminal offense, in this case one that effects not only the buyers of the dogs with faked pedigrees. If people want to breed mixes they can do it without problems, if they do this with faked pedigrees and saying they are purbreds, they are criminals, it is as easy as that and in my eyes not that difficult to understand. And if you show a dog that is not purebred knowing of this fact you are also commiting fraud. This is nothing I would be proud of no matter what title this dog gains or how nice it looks, I would feel ashamed...

Ina

[ArImInIuM]

So I'm a criminal!, I confess, I think that if you give him orders in the U.S., I would get more results with it?
all this is getting ridiculous, is not it?
let that bitch live your dog's life, do not put him in the idea that there could be as much wolf blood in her she does not watch a little girl all dressed in red like the little girl of a grandmother to eat, let me see my dog ​​like a pretty bitch exceptional pedigree or not, purebred or not in your eyes, it makes me happy every day, other dogs can do the same.
reprennons short of talking or she was there. it does not solve the issues of ELBE pedigree, he did not ask anything.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by ArImInIuM

So I'm a criminal!, I confess,

Intersting post if you know what you are saying, what I am not so sure of.

Ina

[ArImInIuM]

that is all is said, thank you for this exchange, which has not advanced the case of ELBE
back to this post much more interesting than the dilemma of my dog

to the wise

[Nebulosa]

I dont think that he or even the breeder of these dogs have a minimal idea about the breed at all, much less about whats going on with the breed and mixes.
On French forum they wrote that people are telling that their dogs are mixes because of long coat, while long coat is a well known problem/feature in CzW, much before we case cases of mixes being falsely registered.

Autre chose, chaque fois que vous avez vu un poil long sur nos portées, tout de suite vous mettez mixage.
Another thing, everytime we have a dog with long coat in our litters , immediately you add as mix

But im sure Ariminium and other people who have such dogs KNOW THEY ARE MIXES, only dont accept to have it published because it would affect in the selling of the pups, Ariminum, you even opened a topic in the French forum talking about register a new breed.
I wonder, why you really dont do it? Would be great and would solve all our problem!
But I know, register a new breed by FCI is extremely hard, and to have an unknown animal from a so-called non official breed is much more hard to sell than do the same thing with a fake pedigree of CzW, as in the lat case the owners will be able to go to dogshows.

[ArImInIuM]

have you read at least once my post?
I once sold have puppies? I'm just a landlord.
what bothers me is that your false allegations on certain lines, rumors started to blind your incompetence to settle data errors.
I would like a dog more "standard" I'd take a puppie of farouk .....

http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/1023


I'm stupid, I already have one, a middle German Shepherd.
I should have taken a long-haired dog like this, I would have much less risk:

http://www.wolfdog.org/site/fr/dbase/d/6299

I have four different dogs ....
I have so far been born puppies?
So no problems for me to own a dog but atypical reading some post, and advertising that you do, the problem is it not simply from there?
the more you talk the more you do them before.
and you put forward, more people watch them.
you are the best advertising we could do about these dogs, and for this I would thank you enough, thank you for WD to our dogs before, thank you for WD to advertise our dogs in the world, this dogs are the most talked about for years, and we speak very little of that good marriages are made every year for some farmers.
everyone knows la louve blanche, is it the same for some breeders?
you understand what I mean?
if la louve blanche has a great notoriety as it is thanks to you
thank you a thousand times