British Kennel Club Recognition

happyfeet · 25-09-2011, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Shadowlands

Well, if it is who I think it may be - he lied

His wife has just posted on FB that the male is going to be neutered (no indication of when), yet he stated that this had already been done.

Why can't people be honest and open in their dealings with breeders - it is no wonder that the suspicion lingers over enquiries from the UK

Aww..perhaps if you,d asked the gentleman in question instead of presuming..im
On his FB and you would know that his male had a medical problem
And they had to reschedule this opp, shame you prefer to make
Such comments and its his sister!!! You see not his wife who
Doesnt have facebook..ive advised him to join, the fact is still his dog would be
Newted before his new addition comes.

Wouldnt like to see him miss represented as he is a really
Nice bloke...hope that clears your concerns christine!

happyfeet · 25-09-2011, 19:41

not wanting to butt in Christine, however it was rather unfair to give out incorrect information and divert the thread back to old and incorect news! especially when it was all looking positive and forum members were pulling together.

not having understanding this FC1 stuff although my girl is registered out of UK and spayed!! can she be of any assistance, I may be a novice to this site but having owned this breed in and out of the uk for over 10 years I may be of some help.. bit long in the tooth for forum stuff!! but may be of help in other ways as i am a mere owner and not breeder!

cheers

my names matthew if that helps you address me!

Shadowlands · 25-09-2011, 20:03

I really am not bothered what your name is

I have not written anything false - what makes you think we are talking about the same person anyway?

happyfeet · 25-09-2011, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Shadowlands

I really am not bothered what your name is

I have not written anything false - what makes you think we are talking about the same person anyway?

Because I have seen your emails and correspondance with the said person and also a friend on the same page you have seen the post small old world eh. I just think its only fair to comment with the full facts and yes you have given false info calling him a liar which he is not and his 'wife' who actually his sister its laughable really. but also very wrong to mis quote

I address you as christine but is it sadie? I am confused? Its such a shame you continue this on each thread and it irritated me enough to correct you.

if you post on a thread are you asking for a reply or is it just informational, I thought forums were for chat and reply? perhaps you dont like being corrected although I did try to reframe but felt It was a we bit unfair of you to share incorrect info IMO

Shadowlands · 26-09-2011, 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyfeet

Because I have seen your emails and correspondance with the said person and also a friend on the same page you have seen the post small old world eh. I just think its only fair to comment with the full facts and yes you have given false info calling him a liar but also very wrong to mis quote

if you post on a thread are you asking for a reply or is it just informational, I thought forums were for chat and reply? perhaps you dont like being corrected although I did try to reframe but felt It was a we bit unfair of you to share incorrect info IMO

If you really have seen the emails, you will know I am telling the truth (as it was put to me) and that I was very supportive towards 'said person' - who, I notice, you choose NOT to name and shame but seem to take great delight in doing it to those with whom you disagree

- so, forgive me if I am a little upset to discover that I - and others on here - have been blatently lied too.

This is my last correspondence on here with you - please stop using threatening behaviour towards others and get your facts straight in the future before you open your mouth.

Thank you.

Tazer · 26-09-2011, 20:30

oh god, not that bloody documentary again. *Sighs* and to think she's making a sequel.

Considering the woman responsible for it:

Blamed the kc and dog showing community for what was wrong, but used dogs as examples that were neither shown or kc registered.

Used an imported gsd as an example of unethical English show dog breeding.

Admitted to edditing the interviews in order to make it look like certain people were saying things they weren't.

Refused to include interviews with certain breeders/breed clubs because it would portray pedegree dog breeders/the dog showing community in a positive light. Clearly she wasn't interested in giving people a balanced view.

Made absolutely no reference to puppy farms/mills and byb's, who are the people most likely to produce unhealthy, untypical examples of breeds, with little or no thought.

Wasted a brilliant oppertunity to raise some important issues and fairly educate the public, in favour of sensationalism.

Gave the puppy farmers and bybs a brilliant marketing ploy for their mass produced littrs, pure and cross breed alike.

I don't think I'll be payng much attention to what ever she has to say next, unless she can prove she didnt in anyway, eddit, missrepresent the evidence or down right lie about the subject.

Taz

AMERICANI · 27-09-2011, 02:03

This is amazing information, perhaps we should begin gathering up all of the mentally handicapped and burn them alive for being witches...

Some very important / valid key issues are brought up in this video, but you must have the proper paradigm to make efficient use of it. 500+ health problems brought about by inbreeding

. Look carefully at these breeds!

. Look into their history; at the time most of these breeds were being developed, inbreeding was also being practiced by royalties... Humans did not know they were causing such horrible issues until the 19th century! Our breed is young! Respectable / responsible breeding will give us a fighting chance at producing healthy dogs. When someone tracks and periodically tests various members throughout a pack of wolves for a generation or so, then you may just produce a wolf which may help our breed. We have enough diversity to only breed the strong and healthy, and adjust (only if needed) the standard. Our standard is "roomy" for selective breeding already. Every day, new genetic tests are being developed! We have the ability to utilize these wonderful tools to do wonderful things in regards to selective breeding, but we need more responsible breeders than all of those "TOP BREEDERS" on this video who said it was "rubbish"

when these problems were brought to their attention..

When I was about 3 or 4 years old, my parents bred Beagles.. Epilepsy was a terrible problem with my dad's female... I use this as motivation to do the right thing!

26-09-2011, 20:30	#6
Tazer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 77	oh god, not that bloody documentary again. Sighs and to think she's making a sequel. Considering the woman responsible for it: Blamed the kc and dog showing community for what was wrong, but used dogs as examples that were neither shown or kc registered. Used an imported gsd as an example of unethical English show dog breeding. Admitted to edditing the interviews in order to make it look like certain people were saying things they weren't. Refused to include interviews with certain breeders/breed clubs because it would portray pedegree dog breeders/the dog showing community in a positive light. Clearly she wasn't interested in giving people a balanced view. Made absolutely no reference to puppy farms/mills and byb's, who are the people most likely to produce unhealthy, untypical examples of breeds, with little or no thought. Wasted a brilliant oppertunity to raise some important issues and fairly educate the public, in favour of sensationalism. Gave the puppy farmers and bybs a brilliant marketing ploy for their mass produced littrs, pure and cross breed alike. I don't think I'll be payng much attention to what ever she has to say next, unless she can prove she didnt in anyway, eddit, missrepresent the evidence or down right lie about the subject. Taz __________________ Never argue with idiots. they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

27-09-2011, 02:03	#7
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	wow This is amazing information, perhaps we should begin gathering up all of the mentally handicapped and burn them alive for being witches... Some very important / valid key issues are brought up in this video, but you must have the proper paradigm to make efficient use of it. 500+ health problems brought about by inbreeding. Look carefully at these breeds!. Look into their history; at the time most of these breeds were being developed, inbreeding was also being practiced by royalties... Humans did not know they were causing such horrible issues until the 19th century! Our breed is young! Respectable / responsible breeding will give us a fighting chance at producing healthy dogs. When someone tracks and periodically tests various members throughout a pack of wolves for a generation or so, then you may just produce a wolf which may help our breed. We have enough diversity to only breed the strong and healthy, and adjust (only if needed) the standard. Our standard is "roomy" for selective breeding already. Every day, new genetic tests are being developed! We have the ability to utilize these wonderful tools to do wonderful things in regards to selective breeding, but we need more responsible breeders than all of those "TOP BREEDERS" on this video who said it was "rubbish" when these problems were brought to their attention.. When I was about 3 or 4 years old, my parents bred Beagles.. Epilepsy was a terrible problem with my dad's female... I use this as motivation to do the right thing! Last edited by AMERICANI; 27-09-2011 at 02:09.

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25-09-2011, 19:41	#2
happyfeet Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: on a farm Posts: 78	not wanting to butt in Christine, however it was rather unfair to give out incorrect information and divert the thread back to old and incorect news! especially when it was all looking positive and forum members were pulling together. not having understanding this FC1 stuff although my girl is registered out of UK and spayed!! can she be of any assistance, I may be a novice to this site but having owned this breed in and out of the uk for over 10 years I may be of some help.. bit long in the tooth for forum stuff!! but may be of help in other ways as i am a mere owner and not breeder! cheers my names matthew if that helps you address me!

25-09-2011, 20:03	#3
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	I really am not bothered what your name is I have not written anything false - what makes you think we are talking about the same person anyway?