Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

[Margo]

Originally Posted by Priska182

But, I'm still wondering... Did DNA test have been done to prove that the father is not Crying wolf Merlin? Or did the breeder admit that the real father of this litter is an American Wolfdog?

Originally Posted by Priska182

I totally agree with you Saschia, but we're pointing with the finger on a lot of dogs without real proof...

No, no.... It was written somewhere here - these are the words of the owner of Uncas who told that the French breeder came and covered his CsW female with Unkas.
He is very proud that puppies of Unkas (here it was about C'Pouchka and C'Kinay) win so much at shows.....

What can be more done in an OFFICIAL DNA test which will show the truth. But so far there are no news from France IF and WHEN it will be done.
Something must be done it such case because such behavior is breaking of the FCI rules which all countries must follow...

[Priska182]

Originally Posted by Margo

No, no.... It was written somewhere here - these are the words of the owner of Uncas who told that the French breeder came and covered his CsW female with Unkas.
He is very proud that puppies of Unkas (here it was about C'Pouchka and C'Kinay) win so much at shows.....

What can be more done in an OFFICIAL DNA test which will show the truth. But so far there are no news from France IF and WHEN it will be done.
Something must be done it such case because such behavior is breaking of the FCI rules which all countries must follow...

Thanks Margo, so if now a dog is tag as a Mix, it's because there is real proof about it...
I really hope everything will find an end soon :s

[Priska182]

Sorry, I have probably forgotten something... Why are we always speaking about Galiba despite the fact that Mona z Krotkovského dvora CS is the common ancestor between Thalia and Sibir

[saschia]

Originally Posted by Priska182

Sorry, I have probably forgotten something... Why are we always speaking about Galiba despite the fact that Mona z Krotkovského dvora CS is the common ancestor between Thalia and Sibir

Not only Mona z Krotkovskeho dvora, but also Fallko Kollarov dvor. The problem is that when those two dogs were born, there were no (= 0) saarloos wolfdogs in Slovakia. Those two cannot be mixes of SW therefore (and also other reasons, but I wrote about them in different forum).

[yukidomari]

I'm am a bit confused as to which dogs would be helpful to resolve this problem.

There are a lot of names mentioned on the threads, such as Galiba but then some others saying it is not only Galiba but perhaps some litters.

Can someone make a list of the dogs or litters that could be used to end this mystery?

[Shadowlands]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

I'm am a bit confused as to which dogs would be helpful to resolve this problem.

There are a lot of names mentioned on the threads, such as Galiba but then some others saying it is not only Galiba but perhaps some litters.

Can someone make a list of the dogs or litters that could be used to end this mystery?

Great idea Then people who share their lives with the offspring of these dogs can maybe get together and form DNA databanks to prove or disprove the suspicions. It is not good having these suspicions around and to not even be sure if your dog is affected or not. Closure of some form is needed - and soon!

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

I'm am a bit confused as to which dogs would be helpful to resolve this problem.

There are a lot of names mentioned on the threads, such as Galiba but then some others saying it is not only Galiba but perhaps some litters.

Can someone make a list of the dogs or litters that could be used to end this mystery?

As far as I understand (but I can still not get it right ), some dogs, who are officially children of Galiba, might be in fact children of the red saarlos.

[Morian]

and at polish forum it was written that red saarlos-alike pups were born by cryings from "r", "s" and "t" litters

[jefta]

"German longhair" is shepherd or pointer? German longhair pointer have bb gene for sure. As I understand this is artickel about pointer (gsd longhair was not consider as a single breed until 1909)

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by jefta

"German longhair" is shepherd or pointer? German longhair pointer have bb gene for sure. As I understand this is artickel about pointer (gsd longhair was not consider as a single breed until 1909)

that was confusing me... i thought the article was about pointers