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Old 13-09-2011, 21:13   #1
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I totally agree with you Saschia, but we're pointing with the finger on a lot of dogs without real proof...
I am totally sure, that it is much better not to breed suspicious dogs TEMPORARY, than to deal with even bigger number of offsprings later, if the suspicions are really truth...
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Old 13-09-2011, 22:04   #2
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I am totally sure, that it is much better not to breed suspicious dogs TEMPORARY, than to deal with even bigger number of offsprings later, if the suspicions are really truth...
Yes and I think all breeders think like this to ???

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Old 13-09-2011, 23:56   #3
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I´m the lookey owner of a dog, she is everything I can ask for.
I haven´t been on Wolfdog.org in about a half year I think.
And now this evening I have some time to look inhere.
Now this visit have given me a bad feeling.
My reason to buy a CSW is that I always will work with old original animals, there are few of in the hole world (genetic preserving) I think in my bad english
Now I hope someone can tell me, do I now have a mixdog or a CSW.
My dogs name is Fanthagiro Crying Wolf, what do I have to do, so I can get peace in my head again
I do not like the way some of you talk to each other, It is not good for the breed, and do you not care for bad publisity you give of the forum. the best for CSW will be an official DNA-test of all dogs.
I´m not a breeder, but in my seach for a good dog I have seen a lot of dogs with big, big ears, and not the "right" Wolfy look.
For me Fantha look all right, but is it all right under the fur.
Sorry my bad english, I hope you can understand it
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Old 14-09-2011, 07:29   #4
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I've been reading the thread and have one very sad reflection:

Why can't the affected owners/breeders count on their Kennel Clubs' help and get support from these organizations in such case and similar ones? Why is FCI so impotent? Has the Slovakian Breed Club, the breed guarant, done anything to press the KC and FCI so far?

The kynological institutions set the rules, but when it comes to their implementation and execution, don't care at all, (so why should the owners and breeders follow them?) Still they take money for membership, shows, registering matchings, litters, etc. etc.

I wonder if sending many letters to their local KC AND Hungarian KC AND FCI by worried owners/breeders would help make them act... If one person posts, it may be disregarded, but if a few hundered affected owners/breeders wrote and requested action and official DNA checking? Could they keep ignoring them?

Just an idea, maybe naive...
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Old 14-09-2011, 07:31   #5
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I wonder if sending many letters to their local KC AND Hungarian KC AND FCI by worried owners/breeders would help make them act... If one person posts, it may be disregarded, but if a few hundered affected owners/breeders wrote and requested action and official DNA checking? Could they keep ignoring them?

Just an idea, maybe naive...
OK, I'm in! I will send a letter worded as officially and professionally as I can. Even if it makes no difference, I know I will have tried as much as I could! Let's spread the idea, no?
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Old 14-09-2011, 08:06   #6
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Maybe Lorry should start, as she brought this issue up and attempted first to act. Ideally she would publish an official statement with photos of the affected (untipical) dogs on her website (I know she doesn't like WD ), so that the owners could have something to refer to in their letters and petitions.

Lorry, if you do it I hope people will at least try to help you solve your "riddle", and ... chapeaux bas.
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Old 14-09-2011, 11:28   #7
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Maybe Lorry should start, as she brought this issue up and attempted first to act. Ideally she would publish an official statement with photos of the affected (untipical) dogs on her website .
Mais je l'ai fait déjà depuis longtemps ! J'ai clairement expliqué la situation, dans la rubrique consanguinité de mon Site hébergé chez "Chiens de France " c'est d'ailleurs directement sur mon Site que M. Ribouet est venu prendre une photo, sans mon autorisation, pour la mettre sur le Forum de WD !

But I've already done it long ago! I've clearly explained the situation under the title "Consanguinité" at my webpage hosted by "Chiens de France". It was also direct from my Webpage that M. Riboulet had took the photo -without my authorization- to add at wolfdog.org forum!

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(I know she doesn't like WD )
Plus exactement je n'aime pas les mensonges continuels que WD diffusent contre moi, sur des portées prétendument toutes MIX, quand ils ne savent pas ...ils notent MIX et point barre !
A sa façon de faire, WD est aussi menteur que l'élevage Crying Wolf !

Precisely, I do not like the lies that WD keep spreading against me, about the litters be all supposed mixes when they dont know, they put "MIX" and point bar(?) !
In this way Wd is also a liar about the breeding Crying Wolf!
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Old 14-09-2011, 08:48   #8
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I wonder if sending many letters to their local KC AND Hungarian KC AND FCI by worried owners/breeders would help make them act... If one person posts, it may be disregarded, but if a few hundered affected owners/breeders wrote and requested action and official DNA checking? Could they keep ignoring them?

Just an idea, maybe naive...
I, too, am in... it doesn't only need to be afected owners/breeders, all of us who love the breed and want to know that the pedigrees mean something should get involved. We all need an end to this problem and Galiba's DNA is the only sure way to get it. Personal appeals have fallen on deaf ears so lets petition the KC's and FCI.
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