AKC Herding Group vs. Working Group

Mikael · 17-08-2011, 23:50

Marcy, put them in "Trailing group"

Best regards / Mikael

GalomyOak · 18-08-2011, 00:17

Lol, Mikael, I think the closest we come to that is the Hound group...boy, wouldn't that shock some people in the dog world!

Here is AKC's definition for the Hound group:

"Most hounds share the common ancestral trait of being used for hunting. Some use acute scenting powers to follow a trail. Others demonstrate a phenomenal gift of stamina as they relentlessly run down quarry. Beyond this, however, generalizations about hounds are hard to come by, since the Group encompasses quite a diverse lot. There are Pharaoh Hounds, Norwegian Elkhounds, Afghans and Beagles, among others. Some hounds share the distinct ability to produce a unique sound known as baying. You'd best sample this sound before you decide to get a hound of your own to be sure it's your cup of tea."

Of course, then people would refer to them as Czechoslovakian Wolfhounds...wait, some misinformed people already do!

I think the general consensus in the US is that they should be assigned to the AKC Working Group (initially they did have other purposes besides trailing, afterall)...but of course, none of us want to unintentionally offend the FCI member countries either by asking to assign them to a new group, and will leave them in the Herding Group if that is the case. It's why we hope to solicit some opinions outside of our country...maybe in a way it's not too important, but perhaps it could change a little what judges look for (in shows and performance trials) in our breed - and once AKC accepts something, it is pretty difficult to change for some time. We are in the process of formalizing our club with AKC, so we want to make sure things are "just as they should be" starting off.

Hanka · 18-08-2011, 06:28

I think working group

Shadowlands · 18-08-2011, 15:47

I have to agree - the working group fits them better (Shadow has been herded by sheep on occasion, not the other way around

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17-08-2011, 23:50	#1
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18-08-2011, 00:17	#2
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	Lol, Mikael, I think the closest we come to that is the Hound group...boy, wouldn't that shock some people in the dog world! Here is AKC's definition for the Hound group: "Most hounds share the common ancestral trait of being used for hunting. Some use acute scenting powers to follow a trail. Others demonstrate a phenomenal gift of stamina as they relentlessly run down quarry. Beyond this, however, generalizations about hounds are hard to come by, since the Group encompasses quite a diverse lot. There are Pharaoh Hounds, Norwegian Elkhounds, Afghans and Beagles, among others. Some hounds share the distinct ability to produce a unique sound known as baying. You'd best sample this sound before you decide to get a hound of your own to be sure it's your cup of tea." Of course, then people would refer to them as Czechoslovakian Wolfhounds...wait, some misinformed people already do! I think the general consensus in the US is that they should be assigned to the AKC Working Group (initially they did have other purposes besides trailing, afterall)...but of course, none of us want to unintentionally offend the FCI member countries either by asking to assign them to a new group, and will leave them in the Herding Group if that is the case. It's why we hope to solicit some opinions outside of our country...maybe in a way it's not too important, but perhaps it could change a little what judges look for (in shows and performance trials) in our breed - and once AKC accepts something, it is pretty difficult to change for some time. We are in the process of formalizing our club with AKC, so we want to make sure things are "just as they should be" starting off. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

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18-08-2011, 06:28	#3
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	I think working group

18-08-2011, 15:47	#4
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	I have to agree - the working group fits them better (Shadow has been herded by sheep on occasion, not the other way around )