Sending a dog to a different continent - Guide for breeders

[Rona]

I'd also add the necessity to sign a detailed contract indicating clearly the obligations and duties of the breeder and owner in order to protect the puppy legally.The contract should also include the contingency plan + details about additional expences if something went wrong. Even if it turned hard or impossible to make the breeder or owner fulfil the agreed obligations, at least it would be clear who and where failed.

Why not put on wolfdog.org sample agreements/contracts suitable for various countries prepared by local breeders? Should a breeder want to send a pup to a specific country, he would have great help. Local breeders could anticipate situations of which the breeder wouldn't even think of

[yukidomari]

Make new perspective owners join WD and read their language's forum first.

[Morian]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

Make new perspective owners join WD and read their language's forum first.

all? how?

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Morian

all? how?

I'm just joking..

But it would be nice to encourage, at least.

[Morian]

ah well... i was thinking, you know the way to do it
but seriously the main problem is that majority of russians interested in csv don't speak any foreign language, so it's not easy to find info. but now we make an informative site about the breed in russian where we're going to publish club show results from all around the world, also results of bonitations and svp exams. and of course many articles about the breed, how to choose pups etc.

[saschia]

Thank you Paula for the tips to breeders, which are by the way good for prospective buyers too, to see if the breeder they contacted is responsible or just wants to get rid of the pups.

But I don't completely agree with you on one toic - you write it is not good to import pups from line that already exists. Of course it is better to increase the number of lines, but on the other hand, you don't want to have only one stud in each line. Even in the lines you should have some genetic variability. An when you import puppy you never know what will happen - the one that comes might for example miss a tooth, have bad character, etc., so it is better to have possibilities. No material is truly lost if used with great care, in the opposite, using a stud which is not of a good quality and not importing other pup instead from the same line can cause more damage for the breed, don't you think?

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by saschia

Thank you Paula for the tips to breeders, which are by the way good for prospective buyers too, to see if the breeder they contacted is responsible or just wants to get rid of the pups.

But I don't completely agree with you on one toic - you write it is not good to import pups from line that already exists. Of course it is better to increase the number of lines, but on the other hand, you don't want to have only one stud in each line. Even in the lines you should have some genetic variability. An when you import puppy you never know what will happen - the one that comes might for example miss a tooth, have bad character, etc., so it is better to have possibilities. No material is truly lost if used with great care, in the opposite, using a stud which is not of a good quality and not importing other pup instead from the same line can cause more damage for the breed, don't you think?

we have similar situation like Paula about import- when we buy a puppy from others country - Slovakia example we buy one from one litter and next from others. WHEN like you say puppy not go to breed we later buy new dog with this blood, but not import in this same time this same bloods or parents pupps from this same liters, when this not important to much have 2-3 puppy with this same blood in this same time. and we have easy situation only 1200 km to SK. no waters like Paula

see in Russia they have about 40 CSV ( I not member good ) but blood line ... are two or 3 only when are breeders who send all puppy from this same litters ( example 5 females from this same litters who have in this time), - about who good genetic we can speak in this time, when not are dogs who can go to breeding when are sister- brother and this same blood. I think about this better say Morian

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by saschia

But I don't completely agree with you on one toic - you write it is not good to import pups from line that already exists. Of course it is better to increase the number of lines, but on the other hand, you don't want to have only one stud in each line. Even in the lines you should have some genetic variability. An when you import puppy you never know what will happen - the one that comes might for example miss a tooth, have bad character, etc., so it is better to have possibilities. No material is truly lost if used with great care, in the opposite, using a stud which is not of a good quality and not importing other pup instead from the same line can cause more damage for the breed, don't you think?

That's why I wrote it:

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

then is not interesting for the breeding of the country in questions to have several pups imported from the same kennel with the same bloodline if not the same parents! For exemple, why we (brazilians) would import pup's from close relatives of Jezebeth? Or USA import pup's from a close relatives of Anthea?! it's only an exemple

One exemple, Ł z peronówki was a very interesting litter, linebreeding in D Kollarov Dvor, but not for me, as it comes by J. z Peronówki with Bonie z Mrazive Ticho, a female I really like, but which I dont wish to make linebreeding, her blood I have by Oskar.

I try to avoid dogs with A Reolup, as it is what we could already call a common blood at the breed itself, I have this blood here by several dogs, but I will not give up to bring more of such blood together with interesting diferent bloods or important lines, as it's not hard to happen, less A.Reolup & similares we have here "for nothing", better as it will let place for "interesting dogs with this blood as well", and that's also why Ł z Peronowki entered as "non interesting litter" FOR ME.

I took Ł z Peronówki as exemple because I know the breeder is open minded also as the breeders who have these dogs, and that they will not get angry or say Im doing "bad advertizement of their blood because im jealous" and "because their dogs are perfect, PERFECT for everyone and for every country" (Ie. they are not blind), but I can make a list of the last years with "interesting litters which wasnt interesting for me" because of this.

Lets see another exemple, A Pura Gioia litter, it was an very interesting litter for us as well, no A Reolup in it, with Baron Spod Dumbiera (which we have by jezebeth, but he came in a quite different connection) as Iran Zemplinska Oblast ( which we have the dog itself here, but also cames in a quite different connection and also at the back of the pedigree) and much more bloods I would be glad to have more to use in linebreeding.
Then, these different conections woudl add something new to our breeding, even is we talk only about the linebreeding possibilities.

It's when we are talking about rational and serious breeders, which will sell one pup of the litter to someone, not about the "Whole sellers" which are able to sell 3 or 4 pups, even the whole litter to the same owner.