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Old 24-06-2011, 14:35   #1
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I wonder if it really is legal to write stuff like this without any proof to put on table, and why does not some higher instance then clear this out once for all, I think nobody here ever will be able to find out the truth by discussing who looks like what, that is no proof, sorry I find this little bit sad ?
I mean who are anybody of us to judge, somebody that writing peolpe here maybe not have seen, met or spoken to, I find this a thread that should be closed.


And Admin, I have Golden Eye son of Blood's Lykan. I'm very sad to read this, saarloos? He has excellent open caracter, and he is puppy, you can not from pictures say how he will be when adult.
And first of all you stole my pictures from facebook or someplace of him. Then I put up own, and you IMMEDIATELY try to find some fault with him. To talk about Frank even more. Please find out eveidence to show us before writing stuff like this. I suppose it is easy on a world wide forum to write stuff, but I think it is also sad of grown up people.

And Gabyäne, that you have put like sister to Golden Eye, are you sure she is from same litter If owner not put up the facts, because I do not know but she looks more like like from the other litter to mee, Frank had other litter too.

Well have a nice midsummer everybody, I will spend it with my dogs !!

This is my last post forever on this site. I find all discussions here really crazy...

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Old 24-06-2011, 15:20   #2
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I wonder if it really is legal to write stuff like this without any proof to put on table, and why does not some higher instance then clear this out once for all, I think nobody here ever will be able to find out the truth by discussing who looks like what, that is no proof, sorry I find this little bit sad ?
Please read the topic one more time. There are already people who have proves that de La Louve blanche use American Wolfdogs and mix them with CsW. Several specialist judges say openly the same - that some of the dogs by the mentioned kennel are not purebreed Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs. It is what we all can see very easy.

But nobody want only to TALK about it. And to accuse anybody but IT MUST BE STOPED and the problem MUST BE SOLVED. Several French breeders already complained that they used the "suspicious dogs" and not they are not sure if their puppies are purebreed or not. Only because someone is cheatng the pedigrees it has influence on the WHOLE French population. And not only French.
Over and over again we ask the French kennel club to start testing and to remove the mutts (take away the pedigrees of the dogs which are CSW-AWD-mixes).

Believe me - we all have the same goals. We want to be sure that every CsW with the FCI pedigree is a CSW and that the parents listed in the pedigree are real parents of this dog. I hope the official DNA tests will be done as soon as possible and the whole problem will be solved as soon as possible.
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Old 24-06-2011, 15:46   #3
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But why do you complain Backman?
You dont' know your dog is a mix?Have you find in him a little think of Ashoka,Voice,Amore Mio or Arys ?

Destroy your fake pedigree and nobody will haunt more you and your strange mix dogs

You invoked the law and fairness and then you disappear dogs and entered the mix dogs in their place

I am glad that wolfdog.org is finally opening his eyes

I'm ready if you need, to offer all the support in the future for any economic and legal proceedings,and I am deeply grateful to you for the task of unmasking these impostors

The situation in Italy is extremely worrying, and I hope that the italian club instead of commenting and make compliments to mix on facebook will finally decides to act and do something

think that a baby mix coming from France, and arrived here a few weeks ago, has already many pre-reservations from (well know) italian breeders

but above all for a great effect emulation (great breeders who use mix and selling their dogs to stratospheric price), and saw the unexplained silence of italian club, I assure you that many are starting to use "contaminations" in consideration of the large marketability of these mixes and the morphology incredibly similar to the wolf
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Old 24-06-2011, 16:31   #4
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Thanks admin.
The time was overdue to bring up this topic.
As soon as I'm back from the South of France, I hopefully can provide you with some new facts.

Dear Ms Bäckman,
I've been working with wolves and dogs on a professional basis for 20 years now.
As well as breeding CSW's for quite a while. We had our M-litter born last December.
Don't try to fool me. I see what I see and know what it (not) is...
Regarding to your website you're a CSW breeder, no honest CSW breeder ever would start breeding with a "de la Louve Blanche" dog from the C-litter onwards.
So either you're stupid or a cheat.
If you're the first I herewith apologize humbly.

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Old 24-06-2011, 18:59   #5
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As soon as I'm back from the South of France, I hopefully can provide you with some new facts.

Michael
Where are you in the South of France? I live near Marseille and I suggest you seeing my bitch Darwen de la louve blanche to make you an idea in really and not in photo if she is or not a mix.


You can see at the same time the new son of Erik Nanook.
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Old 24-06-2011, 19:06   #6
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Best time for you admin to do it. it was so long time wait you to write posts. only idiots not see that furyos mixes american tundra wolfdog. idiots or people blind.

before 3 years hanninadina write that furyos sell hybrids with CLC pedigrees - http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...60&postcount=8 on webite was video of hybrid with puppies

2008 i write that he produce mixes like mutara: http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9708

and same now about mixes in finalnd: http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...54&postcount=8

very much wating for you to make something. but i hope you will stop cheaters. I know many write bad words but you not wonder. they run big cheaters bussiness. and breeding for money not for breed. is why they scream of you.
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Old 25-06-2011, 19:59   #7
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Best time for you admin to do it. it was so long time wait you to write posts. only idiots not see that furyos mixes american tundra wolfdog. idiots or people blind.

before 3 years hanninadina write that furyos sell hybrids with CLC pedigrees - http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...60&postcount=8 on webite was video of hybrid with puppies

2008 i write that he produce mixes like mutara: http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9708

and same now about mixes in finalnd: http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...54&postcount=8

very much wating for you to make something. but i hope you will stop cheaters. I know many write bad words but you not wonder. they run big cheaters bussiness. and breeding for money not for breed. is why they scream of you.
You might be 100% right Lupis, but it kind of is hard to act on so caled (fakt´s) coming from somebody that do not even dare to put he´s own name on it

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Old 24-06-2011, 19:10   #8
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I mean who are anybody of us to judge, somebody that writing peolpe here maybe not have seen, met or spoken to, I find this a thread that should be closed.
i not understand people like you. you know furyos make shit with this breed but you buy next puppy frrom same kennel? next mix and breed new mixes?
you breed CLC. if you not blind you see dog from louve blanche are strange mixes. not wolfdogs.
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Old 25-06-2011, 00:15   #9
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I'm near Brignoles/Var.
Where are you based?

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Old 25-06-2011, 00:44   #10
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I live in Martigues, if you want we can meet in Aix en Provence or Marseille, it is between 2 cities.
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