Mixes in 'La Louve Blanche' kennel?

[Nebulosa]

Seems I've found the brother of my new czechoslovakian wolfdog at French forum

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

Seems I've found the brother of my new czechoslovakian wolfdog at French forum

Very high resemblance!

PS. But I think your dog has more handsome, very typical, goggles and mask...

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Let's be honest, we all know that at least the "C" and "D" litter de la Louve Blanche is a fraud.
And it's finally in the forum.
All I can say, don't let them ( Franck, Sophie, kennel Sun Gifu and, and, and...) off the hook.
One of the advantages of the www. is transparency.

Michael

[Jennin Lauma]

What is the status of wolf x dog crosses (or "wolf hybrids" for clarification, though the term is incorrect for a mix of two Canis Lupus sub species) in FRANCE ? Are they illegal / banned like in UK and Scandinavia for example?
-This would maybe explain why some breeders are trying to use the FCI recognized wolfdog breeds as a safe (but unethical and wrong!) way to own and breed illegal wolf crosses...
Apparently they just don't stop to think about what might happen to the breeds they put at risk while doing so... they might get banned too after the public starts to realize what is going on and looses their respect for the breeds...

And for the view of making money with pedigree dogs, I have to say that I don't think this is worth for the risk of putting these FCI breeds in danger and so digging the ground under own feet, as there are several relatively new "design breeds" that have a higher price than pure bred dogs (even the wolfdog breed). So if someone wnats to make money out of wolfy dogs, they don't need the FCI recognition for that.

[Priska182]

Originally Posted by Jennin Lauma

What is the status of wolf x dog crosses (or "wolf hybrids" for clarification, though the term is incorrect for a mix of two Canis Lupus sub species) in FRANCE ? Are they illegal / banned like in UK and Scandinavia for example?

Hybrids are not leagal for common owner. If you want to own an hybride or a pure wolf you need to obtain an "ability certificate"...

Arrêté du 19 mai 2000: http://www.loup.org/jo_19_07.htm

Bing Translator:
S. 1.-the detention of live Wolves of the species Canis lupus, including hybrid individuals whose recent ancestry includes a Wolf, is subject to prefectural authority pursuant to article l. 212 - 1 of the rural code.
With the exception of persons holding wolves at the entry into force of this order, only establishments for breeding or presentation to the public of non-domestic animals receiving an authorization to open in application of articles l. 213 - 3 and l. 213 - 4 of the rural code can obtain such authorization.
Permission is granted for a maximum of five years, which can be renewed at the express request of the beneficiary.
When it allows the hosting of wolves, authorization of opening of the institution, issued pursuant to article l. 213 - 3 of the rural code, is detention authorization in respect of this order.
By way of derogation from the provisions of article 3B of the Decree of 17 April 1981 referred to above, approval of detention is authorization to transport the animals held.
The authorization must be presented whenever the administration officers referred to in article l. 215 - 5 of the rural code.

S. 3 - The detention authorization is not granted if the following conditions are met:
-the animals have a lawful origin;
-the place of accommodation is designed and equipped to meet the physiological needs of the species;
-the applicant has skills ensuring that animals will be treated with care;
-the prevention of risk to safety of the applicant, the security and tranquillity of the third party, to the introduction into the natural environment of wolves, the transmission of human or animal diseases is ensured.


S. 4 - Except for establishments rearing or presentation to the public of non-domestic animals receiving an authorization to open allowing them to maintain wolves, leave prefectural wolves, issued by order, detention may be granted only for specimens present at the date of publication of this order; the reproduction and the replacement of animals are prohibited; for incidental reproduction, the young are, within the period of three months after their birth, transferred to an institution for breeding or presentation to the public of animals of species not servants allowed to host wolves.


S. 5 - Permission States including:
-the duration of the authorisation and the terms of renewal;
-the maximum number of animals which may be held;
-the characteristics which will need to meet animals detention facilities.
Authorization requires the holding by the recipient of a register of entries and exits of animals which appear, for each animal, sex, age or date of birth, identification number, the date of entry and of exit, the name and address of the holder of origin and the destination. The registry must be filled in each input or output operation.