Crate training your CSV?

Mikael · 18-08-2010, 19:50

I did let the crate open in the house, whit a puppy bed inside.
No training needed, when he went in and fell to sleep I did close the door.

I had a BIG crate indoors "Dog Man, Grand Danois" it was like a living room for a puppy. I had a smaller one in the car, I started to just go to my father to let him off in the mornings when I went to work = 400meters.

There was newer no problem whit the crate, but he was very car sick as a puppy

Best regards / Mikael

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Ps, for Swedish owners and readers ( I had Hronec in a crate 2007 only at night as a puppy, and I know that from Jan 2008 it is not allowed in Sweden to have dogs sleeping in a crate.)

>>>http://www.sjv.se/presskontakten/pre...380004648.html

This is what it say translated to English if somebody that do not speek Swedish wants to know...

"Dogs and cats must not be kept in the cage except at certain specific times (at shows, trials and tests, training for competition, in connection with hunting and during transport)." Ds.

soniakanavle · 18-08-2010, 20:13

I had no problems crate training Flint, in fact he took to it surprisingly easy! I just fed all his meals in his crate so he learned to like it right away. Sure there was some crying at night those first days when he was a tiny puppy but he grew out of that quickly and nowadays he loves his 'den' and will even go sleep in it when the door is open (though he does still prefer to sleep on my bed.)

And funny side note, I had never needed to crate my German Shepherd, but after she saw my CsV in there all the time she started going in it on her own and would growl at him if he came near haha. So I don't feel bad when I do have to crate Flint, but he's free in the yard/house most of the time anyways.

rivals · 18-08-2010, 20:34

I recently heard about those laws in Sweden, and I think it's really interesting. Crating is such a common thing to do here in the US. I don't think we could go without it actually, since my husky has somewhat bad separation anxiety and my pit/border collie mix is a crazy little 15 month old who tries to get into everything.

yukidomari · 18-08-2010, 20:39

The Swedish law is interesting! Thanks Mikael. Here it's commonly prescribed to house break puppies easily, for traveling, and for when you're at work and the puppy isn't safe to be alone in the house yet (chewing everything, etc).

Course it's generally not recommended to crate a dog longer than just a few hours at any 1 period, so if I have to crate to go to work, usually I stop by at lunch or hire a dog walker to come by. Course you can also take them to puppy day care.

Thanks for sharing all the experiences! I really appreciate it. It looks like it's more of an individual thing.. good! Hopefully we won't get a screamer. We had to apologize to the neighbors and leave notes on the door that it was not a baby in distress with one of our dogs when she was young. :/

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-08-2010, 21:41

We let our younger dogs sleep in a crate overnight till they are out of destroing age, what´s usually the case with around 1-2 years. When the crate is open in the dog´s room they like to sleep in it though they don´t have to, sometimes two of the older bitches sleep together in one crate, what´s looks quite crowded but they seem to love the den feeling. As we drive a lot over the day and take the dogs with us most of the time and the young ones in a crate in the car they normally are used to it quite soon and simply sleep till the next action takes part.
I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point.
Crate or other themes owners with a straight mind don´t have many problems.

Ina

GalomyOak · 18-08-2010, 22:21

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point.
Crate or other themes owners with a straight mind don´t have many problems.

Ina

YES!!! Exactly!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-08-2010, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalomyOak

YES!!! Exactly!

what brings me back to the discussion if they are difficult or not. As I am a very straight but patient person (only with animals

) that gets bored very easily, for me they are not, all in all I find them quite amusing and interesting from the ethological point of view.
For another type of person, especially for those that tend to change moods or minds very easily and that get excited very fast, they are very difficult, often too difficult.
I think this is the main reason for the very different experiences we hear about in this forum.

18-08-2010, 19:50	#1
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	I did let the crate open in the house, whit a puppy bed inside. No training needed, when he went in and fell to sleep I did close the door. I had a BIG crate indoors "Dog Man, Grand Danois" it was like a living room for a puppy. I had a smaller one in the car, I started to just go to my father to let him off in the mornings when I went to work = 400meters. There was newer no problem whit the crate, but he was very car sick as a puppy Best regards / Mikael .................................................. .................................................. .................. Ps, for Swedish owners and readers ( I had Hronec in a crate 2007 only at night as a puppy, and I know that from Jan 2008 it is not allowed in Sweden to have dogs sleeping in a crate.) >>>http://www.sjv.se/presskontakten/pre...380004648.html This is what it say translated to English if somebody that do not speek Swedish wants to know... "Dogs and cats must not be kept in the cage except at certain specific times (at shows, trials and tests, training for competition, in connection with hunting and during transport)." Ds. __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916 Last edited by Mikael; 18-08-2010 at 19:59.

18-08-2010, 20:39	#4
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	The Swedish law is interesting! Thanks Mikael. Here it's commonly prescribed to house break puppies easily, for traveling, and for when you're at work and the puppy isn't safe to be alone in the house yet (chewing everything, etc). Course it's generally not recommended to crate a dog longer than just a few hours at any 1 period, so if I have to crate to go to work, usually I stop by at lunch or hire a dog walker to come by. Course you can also take them to puppy day care. Thanks for sharing all the experiences! I really appreciate it. It looks like it's more of an individual thing.. good! Hopefully we won't get a screamer. We had to apologize to the neighbors and leave notes on the door that it was not a baby in distress with one of our dogs when she was young. :/ Last edited by yukidomari; 18-08-2010 at 20:42.

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18-08-2010, 20:13	#2
soniakanavle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Blanco, Texas Posts: 81	I had no problems crate training Flint, in fact he took to it surprisingly easy! I just fed all his meals in his crate so he learned to like it right away. Sure there was some crying at night those first days when he was a tiny puppy but he grew out of that quickly and nowadays he loves his 'den' and will even go sleep in it when the door is open (though he does still prefer to sleep on my bed.) And funny side note, I had never needed to crate my German Shepherd, but after she saw my CsV in there all the time she started going in it on her own and would growl at him if he came near haha. So I don't feel bad when I do have to crate Flint, but he's free in the yard/house most of the time anyways.

18-08-2010, 20:34	#3
rivals Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 24	I recently heard about those laws in Sweden, and I think it's really interesting. Crating is such a common thing to do here in the US. I don't think we could go without it actually, since my husky has somewhat bad separation anxiety and my pit/border collie mix is a crazy little 15 month old who tries to get into everything.

18-08-2010, 21:41	#5
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	We let our younger dogs sleep in a crate overnight till they are out of destroing age, what´s usually the case with around 1-2 years. When the crate is open in the dog´s room they like to sleep in it though they don´t have to, sometimes two of the older bitches sleep together in one crate, what´s looks quite crowded but they seem to love the den feeling. As we drive a lot over the day and take the dogs with us most of the time and the young ones in a crate in the car they normally are used to it quite soon and simply sleep till the next action takes part. I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point. Crate or other themes owners with a straight mind don´t have many problems. Ina