Champions, world champions, super champions

[Rona]

Originally Posted by wolfin

Rona, not only WW champion but and BALT CH, PL-CZ-LT-LV-EE, club Ch, but this is nothing only titels

I know and you know well what I think of show titles . I just found it really humorous, that he was blaming you for envy of WW title

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by Rona

I know and you know well what I think of show titles . I just found it really humorous, that he was blaming you for envy of WW title

aha and I

[Erwan Grey]

Originally Posted by CDaniela

My Mio did´t have any major titles at the time of covering. They came later ..
I'm very sad of your words. He is for me the best dog in the world, because he is my Amore Mio.

I think you misunderstood me ...

I try to explain that in a pedigree has many champions there is no guarantee that champions go, there are more possibilities, but there is no guarantee.

Sometimes two mediocre pieces comes a genetic mutation or a hybrid specimen (by genetic mutation) and is an excellent example.

At times a mixture of blood and chromosomes and gives the perfect mix of mediocre duplicate born a perfect copy.

Do not believe?

This is de mother nature and de Evolution Theory...

the breeding of a champion not only depends on the titles of his predecessors, but it also depends on items such as embryonic cell lineages, the quality of cell division, chromosomes, and in turn this depends on the laws of simple inheritance , of the genes and alleles, complete or incomplete dominance, the possibility of multiple alleles, gene mimics, and therefore there must be borne in mind that this may cause masking of characters in other generations later come to light ...

[CDaniela]

Originally Posted by Erwan Grey

I think you misunderstood me ...

I try to explain that in a pedigree has many champions there is no guarantee that champions go, there are more possibilities, but there is no guarantee.

Sometimes two mediocre pieces comes a genetic mutation or a hybrid specimen (by genetic mutation) and is an excellent example.

At times a mixture of blood and chromosomes and gives the perfect mix of mediocre duplicate born a perfect copy.

Do not believe?

This is de mother nature and de Evolution Theory...

I very well understand. I write for Nebulosa and wolfin.

[jasmine]

Hey ! It is high time to finish this "nice" topic !
Uli, Daniela.....don't come down theire level of communication...............no worth...
A lot of people use the forum just dropping shits and hurt many of us.
Our results must be enough evidences that we do our hobby in the right way!


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[Erwan Grey]

Originally Posted by jasmine

Hey ! It is high time to finish this "nice" topic !
Uli, Daniela.....don't come down theire level of communication...............no worth...
A lot of people use the forum just dropping shits and hurt many of us.
Our results must be enough evidences that we do our hobby in the right way!


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That is a very good comments Edit

As they say in Spain ... "learning by walking"

Each display their results and that alone is what counts. The words, insults, threats and comments absolutely no good at all.

Facts are what count at the world championships and breeding.

Why is it that most of the time, who talk the least results have???

but please, the discussion is completed on the breeding, NO DISCUSSION ON IRREGULARITIES OF THIS "Breeder"; "Lupus Ibericus" because they are known to be good for everybody PLC

[Erwan Grey]

There is a phrase that I said a well known breeder of Wire Fox Terrier Spain and my friend Alberto Velasco from affix FCI "CHELINES"

"A breeder of champions can not be gauged by its current champion, but by the number of champions who owns his kennel in time"

great phrase.

[Silvester]

Exactly, dear "jasmine" ! Just this i have also told before ...
And a World Champion "Harmonia Eden severu " with bonitation code

A62.5 F2 K1 Oc R1 P3

F2 = long ears

K1 = too long tail

Oc =irritable - uncourages

and P 3 NOT a P1 in bonitation- code , with two grandparents with HD- result "C" (!) can without any doubt not be compared with Amore Mio!

Greetings from Germany

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Silvester

Exactly, dear "jasmine" ! Just this i have also told before ...
And a World Champion "Harmonia Eden severu " with bonitation code

A62.5 F2 K1 Oc R1 P3

F2 = long ears

K1 = too long tail

Oc =irritable - uncourages

and P 3 NOT a P1 in bonitation- code , with two grandparents with HD- result "C" (!) can without any doubt not be compared with Amore Mio!

Greetings from Germany

Silvester, I don't want to take sides in this conflict, I don't understand what's going on here and where the problem is, but your posts are really funny!!!

Are you aware that your friend Carlos, selected Harmonia, the 'ugly' female WW 2006 with too long ears, too long tail, uncourages and irritable to be the mother of the male he bought from Daiva?
I don't know the dog, but I know the parents and belive me, they are great! Both Cheitan and Harmonia have something, that for me (a non-breeder) is most important in a dog: fantastic characters and working drive. Plus this 'something', sometimes called "charisma", of which you can say nothing if you haven't seen them interacting with humans and other dogs...

Please, think before you write your next post, unless you want to give us more entertainment... and further ridicule Carlos' kennel He does not deserve allies like you.

[wolfin]

Rona, thanks
Jasmine, Daniela, and others, ALL dogs is nice, and the best for his owner. And IDEAL dog not exist, all have faults.
and in breeding moore imporant is not Ch titles but others things, or would You think otherwise?

[Erwan Grey]

Originally Posted by wolfin

Rona, thanks
Jasmine, Daniela, and others, ALL dogs is nice, and the best for his owner. And IDEAL dog not exist, all have faults.
and in breeding moore imporant is not Ch titles but others things, or would You think otherwise?

applause. This is the best direcction of a good breeder in my opinion

[CDaniela]

Originally Posted by wolfin

Rona, thanks
Jasmine, Daniela, and others, ALL dogs is nice, and the best for his owner. And IDEAL dog not exist, all have faults.
and in breeding moore imporant is not Ch titles but others things, or would You think otherwise?

No, but you're talking about titles and beauty. Amore Mio is an active, healthy dog, friendly to people and it is most important. His exterior is only a bonus.

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by CDaniela

No, but you're talking about titles and beauty. Amore Mio is an active, healthy dog, friendly to people and it is most important. His exterior is only a bonus.

Yes, he are good, typical wolfdog, but can be better like and others alls wolfdog. EXELENT-IDEAL dog not exist breeder wish have this one, but this is like utopia and its very good, we can work, work and work

[Erwan Grey]

Originally Posted by Rona

I don't know the dog, but I know the parents and belive me, they are great! Both Cheitan and Harmonia have something, that for me (a non-breeder) is most important in a dog: fantastic characters and working drive. Plus this 'something', sometimes called "charisma", of which you can say nothing if you haven't seen them interacting with humans and other dogs...

YESSSS!!!!! is this items very very "important"

People know that some behavioral characters are transmitted genetically? because that is also very important.

A dog can be beautiful but if a dog is fearful in the ring ....

And in this race is very important this detail