New admin

[GalomyOak]

Originally Posted by solowolf

then after reading this your dogs are not eligable to attend any FCI show and are not under FCI ruling, so therefor technically according to what the Admin has stated you should not be on the breeders listings, but be as uk breeders not listed, but i am glad to see you and your countries flag up there it lets people see that people in USA are working for the breed, in uk we are lucky as we only need 10 imports and we have these all from different lines, all breeding stock is health checked, we do get abuse about our dogs but as your dogs, they all originated from Europe.......our dogs can go onto rare breeds registry and can compete at shows in UK and Europe, it seems very unfair to ask for so many dogs and owners, if you have 10 or more dogs from different lines then you can breed for many years befor needing new lines, why can they not accept this as a good enough gene pool for say 5 years after which you would then when required and via your club import more new lines. the uk kennel club take show statiistics into consideration and if you look at them on this site under showing you will see the mumbers for most shows are small,we also have letters from many European reeders who have stated we can use there stud dogs to increase our gene pool as we can now travel freely to Europe on passports to breed our bitchs, i am sure if you ask the breeders in Europe you can get frozen seamen straws for AI to USA. the k.cluub in uk have given lots of leeway for new and rare breeds ,

As I understand, once the breed is recognized by the KC - and the dogs in the UK have KC recognized pedigrees which reciprocate with the FCI - they will also be "recognized" by this website as registered dogs. Maybe I am wrong....but I don't think it has to do with shows; it's more about the dogs being "legally recorded and recognized" in their country of birth. KC issued pedigrees will serve as legal "proof" of a dog's pedigree. My dogs (and future litters - none have ever been bred here) are registered with the AKC/FSS - they are legally recorded in the US registry. I also heard it is possible to register US dogs with the Puerto Rico branch of the FCI, since they are a US territory...something I might look into if the need were to arise...but I don't know the exact regulations of the FCI, so that could be wrong.

As far as litters/breeders being listed on this site, I think it is the regulation that kennels that breed mixes are banished - whether they are from the UK or another country...I've never bred a mixed litter (or purebred CSV litter), or had my dogs involved with one, so maybe it is also the reason I am still listed. If I followed the practice, I would also be banished. I think the "elusive Admin" tries to be fair, but he/she/they also do their best to look out for the best interest of the breed in maintaining the site...this is a narrow and difficult line to walk...a difficult part of leadership of the site, I imagine, especially knowing they will make some people upset. In many breed clubs in the USA, there is a code of ethics breeders must follow - a set of rules meant to protect the dogs - that has sanctions against breeders who breed mixed litters intentionally (it's viewed as an unethical practice) - the sanctions may be fines, or a period (usually 1-5 years) where dogs/litters owned by the breeder can't be registered, exhibited, etc. I don't know what the steps to redemption are for this site to be listed again, if there are any...but it is a private site, so those steps aren't required either. It is a privilege - but not a right - to be listed here. The privilege comes to those who abide by the rules - sometimes there are areas which are not so clear which must be responded to and worked through as the need arises (like the problem with ED on the other thread)- that is part of change and evolution with any organization, especially when there is no precedant...but again, this is only my perception...maybe I am wrong.

As for the AKC...haha...that is a whole different huge, ugly can of worms. It is based on money - until you have a large amount of dogs registered, the AKC doesn't think it is worth their time to devote attention to a breed. Once a breed is recognized, it becomes very political with professional handlers. Many newer (especially working) breed clubs have fought against recognition by the AKC...us Americans have a bad reputation for doing bad things to some dog breeds...our shelters and veterinary clinics full of genetically unhealthy dogs are living proof...this is part of the reason I was attracted to the CSV - it is a breed with real potential here, one that hasn't been ruined by poor breeding in the US. And now, it is why I do my best to steer it in a good direction in any way I can in the US. Mostly for fun, and to introduce other people to the breed, I show in UKC shows (no professional handlers allowed) - but this registry is not recognized by the FCI.

Marcy

[massimo]

As usual when some users are around the thread is totally out of its original text.
Can we create another endless thread AGAIN for UK&US breeding please

by the way, i asked already and ask again

WHO IS ADMIN
massimo

[GalomyOak]

Originally Posted by massimo

As usual when some users are around the thread is totally out of its original text.
Can we create another endless thread AGAIN for UK&US breeding please

massimo

My interpretation of this thread is that it is about frustrations over missing information, and the anonymity of "Admin" on WD. Paul stuck to this topic -though his information is missing for other reasons...even with the topic of UK being gone over many times before before, maybe he still doesn't understand, who knows, so I tried to explain one more time - what I have interpreted. Truthfully, I'd have never said anything at all - I'm sick of bickering too - but my kennel (and registration...and reputation) was addressed in Paul's thread. So, since no administrators answered, I gave my analysis of why my kennel is listed, and his is not. I also gave some results (Penn-Hip) that have not been posted on WD - and yes, it's a little frustrating - but it's not my website, so it's not my business, there are no blatant falsifications - I don't care too much. I do get questions in private emails (from Americans) who have looked at my dog's WD pages (and found my kennel here), and seen there are no HD results - so, in light of being addressed by Paul, I listed the online resources where American results can be found (other than WD), for anyone that might be interested - Americans (there are many), or otherwise.

Most discussions evolve (in person, or on a forum) in different ways - but maybe next time I will start 10 new threads for each related thought or detail I have about a topic.

As far as I know, there are no threads (other than people popping on every now and then to ask about it) about American breeding - since no litters have ever been bred in the US. If moderators or Admin want to move it to a new thread, it's no problem. In that case, I apologize for my confusion. I have faith in them to make a good judgement. I don't think Admin is Mickey Mouse - it's either Margo or Przemek - or someone they trust - and that is enough for me.

Don't deride me, please, Massimo....so far as I know, I have done nothing to wrong you...

Marcy

[Hanka]

Hello everybody. I have not frustration about unknown new admin, I want only ask admin, if he can give on web my add about pups od Úhoště from my Wickey, which I sent him two weeks ago........
And today I sent HD and ED results of my Unique od Úhoště.
So, please, admin, don´t forget on me................
thanks Hanka

[Ricky's Wolf]

Originally Posted by hanka

hello everybody. I have not frustration about unknown new admin, i want only ask admin, if he can give on web my add about pups od úhoště from my wickey, which i sent him two weeks ago........
And today i sent hd and ed results of my unique od úhoště.
So, please, admin, don´t forget on me................
Thanks hanka

also me, me hd di i have sent the results one pup of mine "axel runningwolf" you could publish it please?

[massimo]

last database update was 4/10, i think we need patience!
If your data was sent BEFORE and still not there, or when database is updated and your data is missing, then I suggest to ask admin, otherwise no use!

[Hanka]

Updating 1x monthly?????? Very quick.

[Margo]

Originally Posted by Hanka

Hello everybody. I have not frustration about unknown new admin, I want only ask admin, if he can give on web my add about pups

Right...

Dear Admin, don't forget also about my litters too.
Even two....

[Hanka]

Hello admin, I have some questions. I see, was some uploading of new dates. Now I write one question more.
1) Why is deleted my add about pups "od Úhoště", mother Moki od Úhoště, father Ostin Eden Severu? This add was on wolfdog page in last 4 weeks and now it is not there.
2) Why there is not my new add about pups from my Wickey Crying wolf and Czambor z Vlčího dubu? I wrote email with all dates about this litter 3 weeks ago.And I see other adds from other breeders are there.......
3) I sent scann of HD and ED results of my female Unique od Úhoště. If was some uploading, why this result is not on wolfdog page?
Thanks for answer.
4) Why is deleted kennel od Úhoště from wolfdog database? I sent all info about my pups, etc.......

[admin]

Originally Posted by Hanka

Hello admin, I have some questions. I see, was some uploading of new dates. Now I write one question more.
1) Why is deleted my add about pups "od Úhoště", mother Moki od Úhoště, father Ostin Eden Severu? This add was on wolfdog page in last 4 weeks and now it is not there.
2) Why there is not my new add about pups from my Wickey Crying wolf and Czambor z Vlčího dubu? I wrote email with all dates about this litter 3 weeks ago.And I see other adds from other breeders are there.......
3) I sent scann of HD and ED results of my female Unique od Úhoště. If was some uploading, why this result is not on wolfdog page?
Thanks for answer.
4) Why is deleted kennel od Úhoště from wolfdog database? I sent all info about my pups, etc.......

Your litters was deleted because of missing information of your kennel. I found out that there is * by your kennel and was informed that you declined to send the information about your puppy owners (even if we DO NOT ask the personal information but only some info for statistics what can be given without breaking any EU laws).
It is clear written on the page "Submit information about incoming litter (for free)" that:

7. As the time goes or at the latest after puppies' pickup you are obliged to send us information about puppies (birtday date, names, registration numbers, tatoo/chip numbers, names of new owners and if it's also possible their contact addresses, phone numbers and emails) to our email address [email protected].

8. Free-of-charge advertisements base on reciprocal benefits - You get a chance to announce your litter effectively and for free and we receive from you the information about puppies and owners as a "payback". Until you don't fulfill the conditions described in paragraph 7) you will not be able to place more advertisements. Resending of the overdue information to us will result in your future advertisements being published again.

Sorry but it would be not fair to advertise litters of people who to not fulfill the given requirements while all other listed breeders do it and keep to the "rules"

[jasmine]

Dear Admin,

Is there any special reason why my datas (new owners and HD results!!! ) and my planned litters are not updated?????

I'm waiting for your response!
Thanks,

Edit

[z Peronówki]

[jasmine]

Hi,

Is possible to know when was the last update and when will be the next one?
I have sent datas almost a month ago and nothing happened!!!!


Thanks,

Edit

[Rona]

Originally Posted by jasmine

Hi,
Is possible to know when was the last update and when will be the next one?
I have sent datas almost a month ago and nothing happened!!!!

From what I have noticed Admin updates the base every 2-3 months. Last update was on 10 Jan

[AMERICANI]

Byłem szczęśliwy ..... do tej pory
OK, English... I have been lucky... Until now!

[Hanka]

Hi admin, have you got 2 emails with new datas from me? Because I don´t see news in database.
When it will be uploaded, I will send other news about my other litters. Step by step....
thanks Hanka

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by massimo

by the way, i asked already and ask again

WHO IS ADMIN
massimo

Ciao Massimo,

According to Pavel, the database is still in Margo`s care ?
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11828 (post 3)

Best greetings Rolf

[Juniorwolf]

I have no further comments on any subjects untill Admin will be named, start answering questions directed to him/her and share the scources of his/her claimed scientific work ...until that happens Admin is just a troll, like anybody else in the past who did not want to stand by it`s own opinions by name...

Rolf

[hanninadina]

Rolf is completely right, I thought by myself, why the Admi has no name????

Margo and Przemek promised us all will change and will hopefully be better. I was missing show results for almost a month. Did there have been no shows?

There are a few other questions to be ask.

Christian

[Mikael]

I think we must give the new Admin some time to adapt to he’s or her new work.

I think there is no name on the new Admin because of all the personal attacks on Margo and her family true out the years, and this is a way to try to prevent to make the same mistake…

I think all show results and data will be added as some as possible, but as the site was moved to another server there has bean some trouble whit the site and more important things for the new admin to work whit than to put up new data…

I would also like to thank Margo and her family for all hard work they have put down by building this website only to provide us whit data and info about the breed, and provide breeders a place to sell litters on and a forum for us all to make contact.

Thanks Margo, Prezmek, family and crew

Very best regards / Mikael