Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs-Australia

[Sona_Bognarova]

Yeees, Hanka, I am still alive..... As for the importation - it is not only about quarantine, you have to gain also a permit to bring the dog here. Duration of the quarantine depends of the period all required vaccinations and tests were done prior the travel. However, the minimum quarantine for any dog is 30 days (and then up to 6 months) and it is linked to vaccinations and tests being done 150 days prior the travel itself. There are only 3 quarantine stations in Australia - in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney. For all interested, more information here: http://www.daffa.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs
And of course, you pay at every bloody step of the procedure... But I fully agree, even 30 days quarantine is bad for a wolfdog puppy, moreover, there are some other restrictions, I don't remember them all. I truly hope that at least there will be no troubles with an official CSW recognition here, I am quite optimistic in this.

[Hanka]

Thanks for info. So I cross fingres for your idea, bye Hanka

[solowolf]

hi, i have two czech puppies booked for Austrialia this year, they do have quarenteen but this differs, from uk quarenteen is only for 30 days as uk is rabies free, if you need any help on importation to Aus please let me know, you are aware there are very limited quarenteen kennels in Aus and that you need to pre book long in advance of your animal arriving, if you have any questions please email me at [email protected]

[saschia]

Originally Posted by solowolf

hi, i have two czech puppies booked for Austrialia this year, they do have quarenteen but this differs, from uk quarenteen is only for 30 days as uk is rabies free

Sorry, I think 30 days is too long for any puppy, and wolfdog especially, that's a month lost in learning that there is a world full of people and cars and other dogs. I wouldn't recommend anybody to do that. If anybody wants to import, I would recommend getting a young (and best also bonitated and X-rayed dog - so you can use it safely for breeding) which is already socialized, or coming to Europe and socialize it themselves, or if both are impossible, wait a couple of years and get an Australia-born pup.

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by saschia

Sorry, I think 30 days is too long for any puppy, and wolfdog especially, that's a month lost in learning that there is a world full of people and cars and other dogs. I wouldn't recommend anybody to do that. If anybody wants to import, I would recommend getting a young (and best also bonitated and X-rayed dog - so you can use it safely for breeding) which is already socialized, or coming to Europe and socialize it themselves, or if both are impossible, wait a couple of years and get an Australia-born pup.

hi, I am exporting two cwd to Australia, the importation regulations vary, Europe is different from uk, it differs as in if the country is classified as rabies free, with vaccinations and blood test the earliest a pup could leave uk is approx 4 mths old, i have explained to the new owners about the cwd and that i am not happy about the 30 days quarenteen, they are checking with ministry vets to see if it is possable to import without this 30 days, if not both new owners have agreed that i keep the dogs with me till they are 7-9 mths old, all my breeding stock is health tested, we do not have bonitation in uk but i use copy of the code on my dogs to best of my ability, i also get help from very senior uk judge, i also worry as it is very long flight, i have spoken to another breeder of Akitas in uk as he exported to Aus, he give me email of importer who got a dog from uk, he has told me that the dog he got from uk arrived safe and well and did not seem to be overly affected by the long flight, but this was Akita not cwd,,,I have warned both people that i am still not 100% on sending dogs to Australia, both said they will understand if i change my mind, hard decision,,,,,pacino

[saschia]

Hi Pacino, it's OK, if you prepare the dogs for the long flight and long quarantine, I thought you ment young pups, if already grown, that's better.

Originally Posted by solowolf

t i use copy of the code on my dogs to best of my ability, i also get help from very senior uk judge

Well, what I think abou this you can read in another topic (northern inuit dogs), so I won't go into detail here. But if starting a breeding in a far country where import itself is very expensive, I would really try to at least import dogs which were judged by not only senior, but wolfdog-experienced judges, as suitable for further breeding. Especially, as there is a great wolfdog judge Sonya in Australia now.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by saschia

Especially, as there is a great wolfdog judge Sonya in Australia now.

Oh yes, I forgot that parasks very likely doesn´t know her. Sonja is a very experienced wolfdog owner and breeder that knows the breed since decades, she is a specialised judge, a boniation judge and knows I think most of the CSW population all over Europe. If you think about importing one I would surely take her advice where to get one and out of which pairings. You would have the best possibilities to start over there you can get and you would be two of you to start with the breed what will make things easier.

Ina

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by saschia

I would really try to at least import dogs which were judged by not only senior, but wolfdog-experienced judges, as suitable for further breeding.

It would be interessing, but unhaply the things not work like that.
I know really some cases of people wich ask help of a very famous, experienced judge for introduce a new breed in his country, and it not work like that, what I saw mostly times was people sending really bad dogs ( dogs wich none would buy on the original cuntry) to these far away people who ask for help, saying that those dogs are the best, good lined and so on.
I saw the introduction and the start of some new breeds here, I can garantee you, those that ask help of the club for get good dogs and advices only brings descarted dogs with the illusion of bring a good one "because club say it is", I saw also some champion with very important title for the breed coming, with the breeder thinking it would be a garantee of a good dog, and when the dogs arrive he was really non-standarded dog.. but titled.
In truth seems people from the origin country loves send dogs wich would be a suposedly "shame for a kennel" outside, maybe, as one way to hidden problems in his breeding.

[Mikael]

it's OK, if you prepare the dogs for the long flight...

I vent to Australia in 2001 and it took me 28h to get from Stockholm - London - Singapore - Sydney...
BELIEVE ME, IT IS A HARD TRIP even for a human. you MUST realy prepare in advance...
and Singapore and Australia can be very very hott...

Good luck Best regards / Mikael, former AUS Cattledog owner

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by saschia

Hi Pacino, it's OK, if you prepare the dogs for the long flight and long quarantine, I thought you ment young pups, if already grown, that's better.



Well, what I think abou this you can read in another topic (northern inuit dogs), so I won't go into detail here. But if starting a breeding in a far country where import itself is very expensive, I would really try to at least import dogs which were judged by not only senior, but wolfdog-experienced judges, as suitable for further breeding. Especially, as there is a great wolfdog judge Sonya in Australia now.

it is of coarse very important that if cwd are to go to Australia then the best possable dogs must only be sent, it would be expensive, but as the cost is a lot of money i was selling my two cwd for very very little money £200 each i am more interested in getting the cwd to Australia as it is great that people are interested in the breed out there, i also agreed to pay for all vaccinations and the sky kennels, i get the sky kennels very cheap from quarenteen kennels as many people leave them there when they import dogs to uk, as journey is so long it is not for pup or young dog, adult dog is best then at least all health checks can be made before export insuring the best possable start for the breed,,,,,pacino

[Hanka]

Hello Solowolf, I don´t plane export pups to Australia, it was just question (quaratnene) , because here was this topic some years ago.......but thanks for help