Worlddogshow 2010

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

No, we can´t do much about it. The situation got a little bit better because some judges got interested in the breed. But still there are misjudgements. On international shows the popular breeds have chances to get competent ones, the small breeds get a judge that has some spare time left.
After two years of absolutely horrible judgements in Dormund I and I think some more people complained about the judge not following the standart (eyes were to yellow or light, all dogs were wrongly ankeled, tailes were to short....) after that we got 2-3 years at least German judges who tried their very best.
We are only allowed to train own specialized judges when we are an official VDH-Club that can rule the breeding itself, we are fighting for that at the moment but because we don´t have enough different lines we have a wainting period now for some time and hopefully are succesfull the next time.

The Slowakian Kennel Club has produced a training DVD for judges where they show on examples how a dog should look like and how it shouldn´t.

But this is the reason why we normally don´t show on world dog shows with judges we don´t know very well and ask judges out of countries of origin for our Club shows. It also is the reason why people who know the breed very well don´t care at all about international titles like world champion.

Ina

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

No, we can´t do much about it. The situation got a little bit better because some judges got interested in the breed.

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

We are only allowed to train own specialized judges when we are an official VDH-Club that can rule the breeding itself, we are fighting for that at the moment but because we don´t have enough different lines we have a wainting period now for some time and hopefully are succesfull the next time.

So there is hope for a better future

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

But this is the reason why we normally don´t show on world dog shows with judges we don´t know very well and ask judges out of countries of origin for our Club shows. It also is the reason why people who know the breed very well don´t care at all about international titles like world champion.

World dog shows, international dog shows or national dog shows is all good opportunities to spread the knowledge of our breed to judges and the public, so in the future they will have bigger interest in our wonderful breed I think the dog shows is a really good way to make people aware of our breed and this is why I show my dogs at many dog shows(world dog show is even better because many people will come), every day I meet people who do not know of the existence of our breed also on dog shows there is many people who see our breed for the first time ....even when I have been in Czech rep., Slovakia or Italy people stop me in the streets to ask about this breed, so when more people will know of our breed we can expect more interest from kennel clubs and judges and hopefully have better/more competent judges in the future

Greetings Rolf

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by rolf

So there is hope for a better future



World dog shows, international dog shows or national dog shows is all good opportunities to spread the knowledge of our breed to judges and the public, so in the future they will have bigger interest in our wonderful breed I think the dog shows is a really good way to make people aware of our breed and this is why I show my dogs at many dog shows(world dog show is even better because many people will come), every day I meet people who do not know of the existence of our breed also on dog shows there is many people who see our breed for the first time ....even when I have been in Czech rep., Slovakia or Italy people stop me in the streets to ask about this breed, so when more people will know of our breed we can expect more interest from kennel clubs and judges and hopefully have better/more competent judges in the future

Greetings Rolf

Well, this doesn´t really happen in my experience. We have shown our dogs very often in the past, what costs a lot of time and money but nothing changed. What helped was to speak to some judges personally and mainly that they have seen more and more better charakters so they could see an improvement in itself. But it only helps with some judges and the main thing is that they get the impression not that there are many dogs but that there are passionated breeders and owners in the country. With the judges that don´t even bother to care for the standart nothing helped at all, they just don´t care and don´t want to. What seemed to help a little bit for the next years was to complain about showers paying a lot of money for judges that oviously don´t even know the standart.
But even in Slovakia there was a situation not so long ago when a specialised judged intervened because of the absolutely wrong judgement of an international one.

Ina

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Well, this doesn´t really happen in my experience. We have shown our dogs very often in the past, what costs a lot of time and money but nothing changed. What helped was to speak to some judges personally and mainly that they have seen more and more better charakters so they could see an improvement in itself. But it only helps with some judges and the main thing is that they get the impression not that there are many dogs but that there are passionated breeders and owners in the country. With the judges that don´t even bother to care for the standart nothing helped at all, they just don´t care and don´t want to. What seemed to help a little bit for the next years was to complain about showers paying a lot of money for judges that oviously don´t even know the standart.
But even in Slovakia there was a situation not so long ago when a specialised judged intervened because of the absolutely wrong judgement of an international one.

Ina

Well if everybody stop showing their dogs for unxeperienced judges, who will be judging our dogs when these judges retire ?
The dogshows is a great opportunity to speak with the judges and show them that there are passionated breeders and owners in the country, but this is only possible by going to the dogshows. How should the judges see any improvements if no ones want to show their dogs ?
There are always rotten apples in every barrel, but just because of a few rotten apples, you don`t have to throw the whole barrel out !
Why not put an effort in speaking with judges who care and help educating them about our breed and forget the few rotten apples ?

Luckily I have never meet any judges who don`t care for the standart, most of the unexperienced judges(and trainies) I have meet in Denmark have asked me about the breed after the judgment, showing a big interest about our breed.

Greetings Rolf

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

We have done our share of that work for many years, believe me but I won´t invest more time ore money for judges that don´t do their homework

[Juniorwolf]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

We have done our share of that work for many years, believe me but I won´t invest more time ore money for judges that don´t do their homework

I don`t doubt what you write ! ...but some one have to keep up being optimistic about judges and kennel clubs will get better and I think it is a shame that an experienced breeder like you won`t continue the good work !
...what happened to "But it only helps with some judges and the main thing is that they get the impression not that there are many dogs but that there are passionated breeders and owners in the country" ?
It`s kinda hard for an unexperienced owner like my self to give that impression all by my self, I think we all could use as much help as possible to make some changes ...and I think world dog shows will be a good oportunity to do that !

Greetings Rolf

[robertomaggio]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

We have done our share of that work for many years, believe me but I won´t invest more time ore money for judges that don´t do their homework

I agree 100% wiht Ina.
There is not sense.
Roberto

[GalomyOak]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

The Slowakian Kennel Club has produced a training DVD for judges where they show on examples how a dog should look like and how it shouldn´t.

Do you know if it is possible to purchase this DVD? I think something like this could be very helpful to the judges over here on the "lonely AKC/UKC island". They are all very curious here...most are alerted by the host club before the show that they will be judging their first CSV - several, after they have gotten over their initial fear of the word "wolf", and actually meet the dogs - say to me that they have tried to "do their homework", and learn about the breed before the show. This sounds like a great tool...

Here's a toast to 2009!
Marcy