Wolfblood calculate

Nebulosa · 01/11/2005, 18h07

As I am curious, it wanted to know as if it calculated the Wolfblood in the puppys of CzW, I find that I finished discovering.

What I made for calculate:

Wolfblood of the male CwZ + Wolfblood of the female CwZ = One result
The Resul / 2 = Puppies Wolfblood

One example:

Milo Ruskov Dvor has 28.165% Jolly Z Molu ES has 26.14%
28,165 + 26,14 = 54.305
54,305/2 = 27,1525

the puppies go have 27.15% Wolfblood

I take the litter A of kennel Z Peronowki as example, but another litter can make this same account with any that goes to give the certain result of the Wolfblood of the puppies.

I placed this tópic in here because in one another topic that asked as to wolfblood calculate, nobody answered how calculate (type of calculle) to discover it this.

greetings

Mirkawolf · 01/11/2005, 18h32

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I repeat - "wolblood" is pure mathematic number. We put it on our pages only because many CsW owners want to know, how far is their dog from the origin parents.
Look e.g. here. Its a historical pictures of old CsW and you can see, that some hybrids from same litter of first generations looks like a shepards and some like a wolfdogs. And all have same % of "wolfblood". But "wolfblood" have nothing to do with gens. You can see as well today. Its many CsW, they have very "GSD look" and habits more, like a wolf and opposite. Simply say pure mathematic calculation have nothing to do with genetic, heritage end such things ...

Nebulosa · 01/11/2005, 18h37

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Please, note, that:

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Envoyé par Pavel

I repeat - "wolblood" is pure mathematic number. We put it on our pages only because many CsW owners want to know, how far is their dog from the origin parents.
Look e.g. here. Its a historical pictures of old CsW and you can see, that some hybrids from same litter of first generations looks like a shepards and some like a wolfdogs. And all have same % of "wolfblood". But "wolfblood" have nothing to do with gens. You can see as well today. Its many CsW, they have very "GSD look" and habits more, like a wolf and opposite. Simply say pure mathematic calculation have nothing to do with genetic, heritage end such things ...

Of course!
this calculate is alone the curiosity level!

Silentwolfer · 23/01/2007, 13h04

Just out of curiosity if it is true that no recent wolf has been added into my CWD then how much wolf content would it have in there already?? I'm am sure it will be very low but then how can they resemble wolves so much unless more wolf is added, when this is done is it illegal?

Rona · 23/01/2007, 15h33

See this link:
http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/44.html

Silentwolfer · 23/01/2007, 21h09

Thanks that answers one question but poses so many others. I still don't know about %'s or am I reading over that bit??

Nebulosa · 24/01/2007, 00h21

Hi
The wolf percentage is alone matematics, not means nothing, you can see in the Data Base of this site the Wolfblood percentage of all dogs with complet pedigree, as I see commonly is about 25% - 30% of wolfblood, someone can have more or less than this.

Mirkawolf · 24/01/2007, 10h57

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I'm am sure it will be very low but then how can they resemble wolves so much unless more wolf is added, when this is done is it illegal?

Maybe because they were bred to resemble wolves? And as any stable dog breed, the CSW has logically the desired markings, shape and coat length etc. to fit the standard (which requires the dogs to resemble wolves). So when you take two CSW´s and mate them together, surprise, you get again CSW who resemble wolves..

The question is a bit like if you ask, how it comes, that when you breed labradors, after years they still look like labradors, even that you did not add anything else into the breed.

One thing is true, though. If you do not choose the breeding animals carefully, if you don´t care about genetics, standard and health, you can soon end up with CSW´s, who resemble jackals, coyotes or GSD´s. But not wolves. And all that even without jackals, coyotes or GSD´s added!

carlos2207 · 22/01/2008, 15h09

Why in the present chage the % wolfblood from 25-30% to 60-65% in this web page and in the peronowki page??

What is in reallity the right % wolfblood mean in one wolfdog?

Nebulosa · 22/01/2008, 17h37

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Why in the present chage the % wolfblood from 25-30% to 60-65% in this web page and in the peronowki page??

What is in reallity the right % wolfblood mean in one wolfdog?

Maybe because they're working in Dadabase for the new site the wolfblood percentage is wrong.
The wolfblood isn't more than one pretty number for curious people see without have the work to calculate it, this means absolutely nothing.

carlos2207 · 22/01/2008, 19h32

I know that genetic combinations are random. For example, one wolf and one female German Shepherd have one litter, is likely that the different puppies don’t have de same wolfblood to 50%. But the mean is 50%. I mean this, what is the normal % of wolfblood in breed wolfdog? 25% = mix wolf with German Shepherd and after mix his puppy (50% wolfblood) with German Shepherd

01/11/2005, 18h07	#1
Nebulosa Moderator Date d'inscription: October 2004 Localisation: Rio Grande do Sul Messages: 1 334	Wolfblood calculate As I am curious, it wanted to know as if it calculated the Wolfblood in the puppys of CzW, I find that I finished discovering. What I made for calculate: Wolfblood of the male CwZ + Wolfblood of the female CwZ = One result The Resul / 2 = Puppies Wolfblood One example: Milo Ruskov Dvor has 28.165% Jolly Z Molu ES has 26.14% 28,165 + 26,14 = 54.305 54,305/2 = 27,1525 the puppies go have 27.15% Wolfblood I take the litter A of kennel Z Peronowki as example, but another litter can make this same account with any that goes to give the certain result of the Wolfblood of the puppies. I placed this tópic in here because in one another topic that asked as to wolfblood calculate, nobody answered how calculate (type of calculle) to discover it this. greetings Dernière modification par Nebulosa ; 05/05/2011 à 23h11

23/01/2007, 13h04	#4
Silentwolfer Junior Member Date d'inscription: June 2006 Messages: 5	% of wolf Just out of curiosity if it is true that no recent wolf has been added into my CWD then how much wolf content would it have in there already?? I'm am sure it will be very low but then how can they resemble wolves so much unless more wolf is added, when this is done is it illegal?

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23/01/2007, 15h33	#5
Rona Distinguished Member Date d'inscription: August 2004 Localisation: Kraków Messages: 3 509	See this link: http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/44.html

23/01/2007, 21h09	#6
Silentwolfer Junior Member Date d'inscription: June 2006 Messages: 5	Thanks that answers one question but poses so many others. I still don't know about %'s or am I reading over that bit??

24/01/2007, 00h21	#7
Nebulosa Moderator Date d'inscription: October 2004 Localisation: Rio Grande do Sul Messages: 1 334	Hi The wolf percentage is alone matematics, not means nothing, you can see in the Data Base of this site the Wolfblood percentage of all dogs with complet pedigree, as I see commonly is about 25% - 30% of wolfblood, someone can have more or less than this.

22/01/2008, 15h09	#9
carlos2207 Junior Member Date d'inscription: July 2007 Messages: 48	Why in the present chage the % wolfblood from 25-30% to 60-65% in this web page and in the peronowki page?? What is in reallity the right % wolfblood mean in one wolfdog?

22/01/2008, 19h32	#11
carlos2207 Junior Member Date d'inscription: July 2007 Messages: 48	I know that genetic combinations are random. For example, one wolf and one female German Shepherd have one litter, is likely that the different puppies don’t have de same wolfblood to 50%. But the mean is 50%. I mean this, what is the normal % of wolfblood in breed wolfdog? 25% = mix wolf with German Shepherd and after mix his puppy (50% wolfblood) with German Shepherd