Registration and breeding in the UK

Tassle · 01/03/2014, 22h49

I just wanted to put out a reminder that dogs bred in the UK currently have no formal registration and currently no hope of gaining any.

The UK kennel club have not yet placed these dogs on the import register, until this happens, dogs bred in this country may be placed on the KC activity register (a register for any cross breed, or dog of unknown heritage) to allow it to compete at activities and events licensed by the UK KC.

Shadowlands · 02/03/2014, 11h22

Until the breed is accepted onto the Import Register, no FCI recognition will be given to puppies born in the UK - not even if BOTH parents are FCI registered. Once the breed is accepted onto the Import Register, it MAY be possible to gain an official pedigree retrospectively for these pups, but this will involve DNA testing of pups and parents and a lot of paperwork (and, doubtless, a fair bit of money).

Please, anyone considering buying a UK bred puppy at this time, be fully aware of these facts. There is not one single UK based breeder who breeds FCI recognised puppies at this moment in time and this is not likely to change in the foreseeable future.

As Tassle has said, the Activities Register is not a sign of breed acceptance and is open to all dogs - crossbreeds included - and does not qualify a breed to appear at dog shows.

Tassle · 02/03/2014, 13h06

The activities register was actually set up specifically for crossbreeds and dogs of unknown parentage.

Valkyrja · 02/03/2014, 18h28

Seconding (thirding?) what has been said above. If there are any breeders listed under the UK section on the breeders page here on the wolfdog.org database, any claim they may make of breeding 'FCI recognized dogs with FCI pedigrees' is completely false. It is either a deliberate lie to mislead people to buy from them instead of importing, or it is a sign that the said 'breeder' is ignorant of the current situation entirely.

Shadowlands · 03/03/2014, 11h22

So not exactly the register the CsV belongs on then

Tassle · 03/03/2014, 11h25

No - sad to see this being promoted really

Valkyrja · 03/03/2014, 12h29

Thank you for bringing this up here. I think it goes without saying as well that anyone claiming to be breeding 'FCI registered dogs with FCI pedigrees' WITHIN the UK at this time (and listing themselves as such on the database), is either outright lying, attempting to mislead potential UK buyers, or is willfully ignorant about the current situation.

01/03/2014, 22h49	#1
Tassle Junior Member Date d'inscription: April 2011 Localisation: Cornwall Messages: 137	Registration and breeding in the UK I just wanted to put out a reminder that dogs bred in the UK currently have no formal registration and currently no hope of gaining any. The UK kennel club have not yet placed these dogs on the import register, until this happens, dogs bred in this country may be placed on the KC activity register (a register for any cross breed, or dog of unknown heritage) to allow it to compete at activities and events licensed by the UK KC.

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02/03/2014, 11h22	#2
Shadowlands Junior Member Date d'inscription: November 2009 Localisation: Vidin Messages: 391	Until the breed is accepted onto the Import Register, no FCI recognition will be given to puppies born in the UK - not even if BOTH parents are FCI registered. Once the breed is accepted onto the Import Register, it MAY be possible to gain an official pedigree retrospectively for these pups, but this will involve DNA testing of pups and parents and a lot of paperwork (and, doubtless, a fair bit of money). Please, anyone considering buying a UK bred puppy at this time, be fully aware of these facts. There is not one single UK based breeder who breeds FCI recognised puppies at this moment in time and this is not likely to change in the foreseeable future. As Tassle has said, the Activities Register is not a sign of breed acceptance and is open to all dogs - crossbreeds included - and does not qualify a breed to appear at dog shows.

02/03/2014, 13h06	#3
Tassle Junior Member Date d'inscription: April 2011 Localisation: Cornwall Messages: 137	The activities register was actually set up specifically for crossbreeds and dogs of unknown parentage.

02/03/2014, 18h28	#4
Valkyrja Junior Member Date d'inscription: November 2013 Localisation: East Yorkshire, United Kingdom Messages: 12	Seconding (thirding?) what has been said above. If there are any breeders listed under the UK section on the breeders page here on the wolfdog.org database, any claim they may make of breeding 'FCI recognized dogs with FCI pedigrees' is completely false. It is either a deliberate lie to mislead people to buy from them instead of importing, or it is a sign that the said 'breeder' is ignorant of the current situation entirely.

03/03/2014, 11h22	#5
Shadowlands Junior Member Date d'inscription: November 2009 Localisation: Vidin Messages: 391	So not exactly the register the CsV belongs on then

03/03/2014, 11h25	#6
Tassle Junior Member Date d'inscription: April 2011 Localisation: Cornwall Messages: 137	No - sad to see this being promoted really

03/03/2014, 12h29	#7
Valkyrja Junior Member Date d'inscription: November 2013 Localisation: East Yorkshire, United Kingdom Messages: 12	Thank you for bringing this up here. I think it goes without saying as well that anyone claiming to be breeding 'FCI registered dogs with FCI pedigrees' WITHIN the UK at this time (and listing themselves as such on the database), is either outright lying, attempting to mislead potential UK buyers, or is willfully ignorant about the current situation.