12-03-2009, 12:30
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Scandinavian Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 1,089
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Answer to Christian questions
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Sorry, Mikael, it is(!) a thing between you and Satu, as Suski already wrote. It is a mess that you are pointing it out here in the forum. As Suski wrote, wolfdog.org is not an official csw side! You can find it in italy there there are all datas official in internet to see.
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First it was here on the forum that the false result A(0/0) was used, and ALL puppy buyer that I did talk to did think Sleeping Storm was HD A, and secondly I ask Satu to answer to Fkk not here read post #1 !!!
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So, if I am interested to get a dog for breeding or whatever, I get an impression here. But, if I don’t know the persons and their dogs I will go further and look for official papers and if I don´t understand the language I will translate if I think it is sooo improtant for me!
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Yes in the future I will, however I did ask Satu in person to, and she did say she only breed on A/A dogs
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Satu thinks that her dogs are all free of hd and healthy. So it is her opinion. No one could be save that all his dogs are free of any kind of illness. It is an animal, it is nature. And sometimes things happens which we don´t can see in advance.
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But Finish kennel Club say Satu can not use a unofficial result, IT MUST BE OFFICIAL if she is going to use a HD result at all !!! and that she do not follow Fkk rules !!! which I was sure she did as she is a Fkk / FCI breeder !!!
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You are a beginner in the world of csw. So as a beginner you have to inform yourself. Normally one goes to the breeder and looks at his kennel and of course the dogs. And than goes to another breeder for having some comparison. Or if you don´t do that you are satiesfyd with the first one. But you can not blame people if things happen which are for you so important but not for the breeder. I don´t know if it is allowed to breed in Finland with csw without official HD-results. It seems to me, but you will tell me how it is. I know that in italy you only need papers for csw and you can do what you want. No bonitation, no HD-results, no show results. The big and good breeders will have of course all. But there are so many black sheeps.
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You can breed whiteout, but you can not use unofficial HD results on a pure-bred !!!
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So if it not necessaey to have official HD-result, it is your own work to ask if Satu had offcial had result. You wrote by yourself that you did not ask that for! Satu knew from first HD lok which Suski did, that there will be no hd. And for her it was enough.
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She can think what she wont’s, but she can not use it as advertising or info when she sell a litter, neither in text or by mouth !!! according to the Fkk !!!
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So please it is a thing between you, maybe if some other puppy buyer has problems, for them, but it nothing for us all!
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As I did say read post one, Satu can answer in private to Fkk, but it is apparently very hard to just say NO I DO NOT HAVE A OFFICIAL X-RAY !!!
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You did read her here there are breeders who breed with male csw who does not have bonitation and are not allowed to breed. These points are main points but not what you are talking about. Still today there are no official hd-results from these two litters from Sleeping and what for are you complaning for in this moment?
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That Satu did lay about the HD result to me and others, and we wont to know the official result on Sleeping Storm. Is or was she ever A/A ??? I think we have the right to know !!! even if all offspring’s will be A/A there mother will be HD unknown !!! Therefore I did send a report to Fkk, demanding a official x-ray !!!
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And by the way you did not answer my eMail from a few weeks ago either!
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Are you sure you did send it to me ??? I’m sure I did send my e-mails to Satu as she did answer on 5 of 8 of them…But to be very sure I did send tree e-mail !!!
But please send me that e-mail again, and I will answer you, my e-mail is wolfdog_of_sweden-a-hotmail.com but whit a @ instead of –a-
Best regards / Mikael
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