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elf · 03-06-2010, 17:03

I gave a short test for those groups criterions consistency, seems not very high, which means the expected "breeding effect" would not be as desired.

For exemple too many dogs in group X are also in group Y and/or Z etc. This is mainly probably because the dogs chosen to define groups are not discriminating enough, it would be maybe needed to redefine the groups criterions (for exemple by using more "recent dogs" ?). In this thread http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9817 we can see more contemporary dogs heavily present in current living dogs pedigrees, just picked some of them:

3.23256510027% -- 1991.11.13 -- Dora Šedá eminence (4212)
2.61552275919% -- 1993.01.05 -- Amur z Dáblova kanonu CS (340

2.19878893929% -- 1992.03.10 -- Besi Zeper CS (2865)
2.19802147369% -- 1990.02.16 -- Alma z Kladenské záre CS (2864)
2.18036976493% -- 1991.01.29 -- Ajax Brevnovská stopa CS (2841)
2.13048450103% -- 1992.05.30 -- Aras z Jundrovského boru CS (2776)
2.10976292988% -- 1992.02.02 -- Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS (2749)
2.10669306748% -- 1994.09.26 -- Charon Šedá eminence (2745)
2.0990184115% -- 1991.01.29 -- Atos Brevnovská stopa CS (2735)
1.77668286019% -- 1993.03.04 -- Colt Zeper CS (2315)
1.73600718348% -- 1991.10.05 -- Farna Jimili CS (2262)

4.26505400943% -- 1996.10.24 -- Dalos Duna Fehérlófia (2144)
3.37185939645% -- 1996.10.17 -- Dik Brevnovská stopa CS (1695)
2.50054705683% -- 1996.10.24 -- Dinon Dánon Fehérlófia (1257)
2.32946746504% -- 1995.01.17 -- Adon Irpruš (1171)
2.10467683861% -- 1996.09.29 -- Juna Hlas divociny CS (105

1.91768286618% -- 1996.10.17 -- Dita Brevnovská stopa CS (964)
1.85004674849% -- 1996.11.10 -- Milo Ruskov dvor CS (930)
1.83612166544% -- 1995.10.27 -- Ali Reolup (923)
1.81225009449% -- 1998.10.27 -- Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- (911)
1.79832501144% -- 1996.10.22 -- Cira Volání rodu (904)

5.84204098249% -- 2000.03.15 -- Oasia ---Passo del Lupo--- (861)
5.40778938798% -- 2001.04.12 -- Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- (797)
2.68693174108% -- 2002.10.03 -- Miky Passo del Lupo (396)
1.58094721129% -- 2000.05.15 -- Jolly z Molu Es (233)
1.39774731985% -- 2000.01.02 -- Legra ---Passo del Lupo--- (206)
1.32989550821% -- 2000.01.25 -- Fallko Kollárov dvor (196)

Said in other words, nowadays it's maybe more relevant for a dog to be said for exemple X% of Dalos Duna Fehérlófia and Y% of Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- etc, than to be X% of Gar z Rosíkova and Y% of Káj z Rosíkova.

03-06-2010, 17:03	#14
elf Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 766	I gave a short test for those groups criterions consistency, seems not very high, which means the expected "breeding effect" would not be as desired. For exemple too many dogs in group X are also in group Y and/or Z etc. This is mainly probably because the dogs chosen to define groups are not discriminating enough, it would be maybe needed to redefine the groups criterions (for exemple by using more "recent dogs" ?). In this thread http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9817 we can see more contemporary dogs heavily present in current living dogs pedigrees, just picked some of them: 3.23256510027% -- 1991.11.13 -- Dora Šedá eminence (4212) 2.61552275919% -- 1993.01.05 -- Amur z Dáblova kanonu CS (340 2.19878893929% -- 1992.03.10 -- Besi Zeper CS (2865) 2.19802147369% -- 1990.02.16 -- Alma z Kladenské záre CS (2864) 2.18036976493% -- 1991.01.29 -- Ajax Brevnovská stopa CS (2841) 2.13048450103% -- 1992.05.30 -- Aras z Jundrovského boru CS (2776) 2.10976292988% -- 1992.02.02 -- Omar z Krotkovského dvora CS (2749) 2.10669306748% -- 1994.09.26 -- Charon Šedá eminence (2745) 2.0990184115% -- 1991.01.29 -- Atos Brevnovská stopa CS (2735) 1.77668286019% -- 1993.03.04 -- Colt Zeper CS (2315) 1.73600718348% -- 1991.10.05 -- Farna Jimili CS (2262) 4.26505400943% -- 1996.10.24 -- Dalos Duna Fehérlófia (2144) 3.37185939645% -- 1996.10.17 -- Dik Brevnovská stopa CS (1695) 2.50054705683% -- 1996.10.24 -- Dinon Dánon Fehérlófia (1257) 2.32946746504% -- 1995.01.17 -- Adon Irpruš (1171) 2.10467683861% -- 1996.09.29 -- Juna Hlas divociny CS (105 1.91768286618% -- 1996.10.17 -- Dita Brevnovská stopa CS (964) 1.85004674849% -- 1996.11.10 -- Milo Ruskov dvor CS (930) 1.83612166544% -- 1995.10.27 -- Ali Reolup (923) 1.81225009449% -- 1998.10.27 -- Clover ---(priv. Rienzi)--- (911) 1.79832501144% -- 1996.10.22 -- Cira Volání rodu (904) 5.84204098249% -- 2000.03.15 -- Oasia ---Passo del Lupo--- (861) 5.40778938798% -- 2001.04.12 -- Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- (797) 2.68693174108% -- 2002.10.03 -- Miky Passo del Lupo (396) 1.58094721129% -- 2000.05.15 -- Jolly z Molu Es (233) 1.39774731985% -- 2000.01.02 -- Legra ---Passo del Lupo--- (206) 1.32989550821% -- 2000.01.25 -- Fallko Kollárov dvor (196) Said in other words, nowadays it's maybe more relevant for a dog to be said for exemple X% of Dalos Duna Fehérlófia and Y% of Cutt ---dell'Irco Sortiere--- etc, than to be X% of Gar z Rosíkova and Y% of Káj z Rosíkova. __________________ http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html Last edited by elf; 03-06-2010 at 17:15.