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Old 09-01-2010, 02:05   #16
mijke
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but when have this name topic, this ONLY help for us all. Or not?
But we mas speak about this. I think You too not have 100 % healty dog like and others, alls dogs have this same grand- grand- grand- parents, and all mas speak about this. If dogs not have problems in reality this does not mean this problem be in future.
I only please, people when know dogs who have this BROKEN tail please send my private info if not want say this in forum. And realy not believe in this when my say " this not exist".
Thanks Daiva!

Personal don't know this problem in Holland with CsW, but only in my other breeds. But when I discover here a CsW with this problem I will inform you!

In every breed their will appear more and more genetic health defects, because of the small gene pools. (for example because of the "Founder-effect"; when a superior male was used in almost all family groups)

That is why in some breeds it is already obligated by the breed clubs to do all available DNA tests before breeding. And some breed clubs requires blood samples of all stud dogs and their offspring. (so they can use it in future for new DNA tests for the breed.)
Genetic specialists and universities are telling more and more that the possible inheritance of diseases can become more clear when the health info of a breed is linked to pedigrees.

Some breeds did start with international databases with all test results, health info and all death causes.
But when breeders don't want to publish test info and health info (because they are afraid for "bad name") it is only short time thinking for a breed. :
(and in my opinion only foolish commercial thinking)
In years will become clear how great this "behavior" was for the future of some breeds......
How many breeds will survive the next 50 or 100 years???

It would be much better when breeders don't tell any longer fairy tales about the great health of a breed to future buyers and interested people.
On BBC and in Holland were already programs with info about awful diseases in some breeds. And I hope there will come more such info programs!
And only when breeders will more cooperate and honest share test and health info, we can save breeds for future.

It is a pity that even here on this informative site we can't discuss "open and honest" about health problems, test info, how to solve problems, because of total useless accusations to each other.

We have to realize that most writers here "know" each other and understand what is going on.
But we also have a lot of "only readers" and they maybe can think because of all these discussions that something is wrong with "honest breeders" who speak about problems.

Maybe it is a possibility to start first also a special breed/stud dog forum (just like the administrator forum) on this site (for registered breeders and stud dog owners) where we can speak and discuss more open without fear. And later on we can inform everybody.

I have more info and questions then only dwarfism. And till now I only can share and speak about this with people I trust (because I don't want to harm any breeder in a public forum)

For example only a personal one: When I did have a kind of disaster with my last litter (all pups dead in last week before birth ), I did speak about this open and honest in the Dutch forum. I did make several tests with my female and did let make special investigation on all dead pups, but there was not any reason found. But I would like to have info of other breeders who did have bad experiences with a litter without the reason was found.
And till now I only did share all the details and info with a few breeders that I know and trust. And from them, I did receive personal also honest info about "strange births" and "dead pups".
But it would be great if more breeders could share such info without fear for bad name in public!


I know personal for example also CsW's with EPI, Epilepsy and DM and I am sure there will be for sure more in this breed! Just like there will be (or appear) other genetic diseases.
And now we have still the option to be silent, keep our eyes closed, or speak honest about this and share the info and try to avoid more health problems.
Later on it is maybe to late......
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