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Originally Posted by indiananous
Mirka,
To write that long hair in c.s.w result of an inbreeding in not efficient because it's not enough to find the solutions.
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I wrote what I wrote according the informations I had from you. I did not have enough, as I see now. We spoke together only about the litters of Elza and Art, where the long haired puppies occured.
You did not give me (or my husband) any informations about other long-haired puppies born from Art.
Therefore of course I thought, that the long-hair was caused by the strong inbreeding. I´ve never seen such long-haired dogs in my life and definatelly not in CR or Slovakia.
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Originally Posted by indiananous
Puppies from WAYTA and OSA have dense, thick fur.
Among the puppies borned of ASTA, they were two females long haired ; for this last point, Nébulosa was on a wrong understanding.
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I did not have this information. If it is so, and the only dog common to all the cases of long-hair is Art, then for sure he must be the one who carries the trait for long-hair, even if he himself does not have long hair.
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Originally Posted by indiananous
Instead of calling doubt about mates [( and about a breeder)], it would be better to ask for the good questions. Let's try to find the génétic cause. And, whe should also be able to talk about the "fente palatine" (cleft palate) or about the "syndrome du chiot nageur" (swimming-puppy ?) ! these diseases are typical of the g.s.d and are known among the c.s.w...
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Well, I cannot say that I agree with the inbreeding and I never will. It is no doubts, I am sure of that. However, as you say that is not the point now.
I know nothing about genetics, but perhaps Liesbeth would have an idea?
Btw. can you explain, what is "fente palatine" (cleft palate) or about the "syndrome du chiot nageur" (swimming-puppy ?)
I´ve never heard of such diseases and I would like to know more.
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Originally Posted by indiananous
Who is able to disqualify the male or the bitch after one mate and only one litter ? I matted ART with three females, (the last litter from Asta : 3 long haired, again !) and now I hypothesize that ART, may be the conductor of this long-hair gene.
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Of course, that after one litter you cannot be sure of anything. However, after third litter.. If it is so, and you believe that Art makes the puppies long-haired, then you probably should stop using him as stud.
It is a pity, because visibly there is nothing wrong with the dog, but the long-haired puppies are definatelly non-standard.
Also none of the long-haired dogs should be used for further breeding, only that way we can avoid spreading the problem further.