[Rona]

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Rona, dogs are different like we people. I like dogs who are able to work but I do not go in dog clubs or places and train them there. (...)

I fully understand you. We too, train Lorka only for fun and don't feel like taking any exams. She passes them every day in the streets, buses, at our friends homes, etc. and we find it sufficient.

But you wrote that dogs "must not" take exams! Must not in English means that they are forbidden to take them, so you statement made no sense to me.

Originally Posted by hanninadina

The society changes in europe (the world) and we do not need dogs who will be trained for biting. A few weeks ago I got to know people who have to Malinois and they are training them, they are taking part at the german champion ship next weekend. But they are not able to lead their dog without this horrible pinch/prong collar.

I know lots of dogs, who are "good" on their training ground in their club but outside it is a complete different world, they do not listen, they behave not normal. Sorry, for me it is important that the dogs are outside in the world good and not on training ground.

I fully agree.

Originally Posted by hanninadina

I do not like dogs which I pass in summercamp and they try to snap at me. Dogs which are trained. Even from people who are writing here.
There are dogs which it is better not to train. But people train them and then the result is that they try to snap everyone who is passing them.

The fact that somebody is training a dog doesn't necessarily mean the dog has been already trained succesffuly What's more, vlcaks are not machines, they are able to "think" independently and let me repeat again: I belive the breed has been designed to teach their owners modesty and make them feel humble from time to time. Personally, I love this particular trait of them! But since no owner knows what his dog might 'do' one day I would suggest less critical approach to other vlcaks.

Originally Posted by hanninadina

To see if a dog has working abilities you do not need to pass examines.

Well, yes and no. It's true one does not need to pass exams to see if the dog has an aptitude for work, but if their breeder claims on-line that he/she is breeding 'working lines' he/she should be able to prove it. Such breeders should select owners who would be willing to train their pups, pass exams with them and only then will the breeder turn credible

There are so many 'virtual working dogs', 'virtual big dogs', virtual beautifully moving dogs', 'virtual good characters', etc. etc.! If these statements are not confirmed officially by bonitation codes, passed exams and show results they may just be fancies of "proud parents" or smart PR of business-oriented breeders