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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn
Is it just an experiment to use a dog with such a bad hip score ( HD-D) or is there any other important reason using this bitch?
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Litter of Anna is smallest problem in Poland now. Krzysztof write that puppies will be for sale as dogs not for breeding. And problem will stop.
Problem in Poland is activity of other breeders using dogs with wrong pedigree and selling puppies as perfect for show and breeding. Main is Jantarowa wataha and promotion of dogs of Upstream Ariminum. She is female with HD D-3/3 in Czech and now her puppies are in breeding and lot breeders in Poland use it.
First was Jantarowa wataha and it litter of son of Upstream called Tlapka. Litter with Tlapka have no puppies with normal hips and all have worser results!
Now Wataha make promotion of other son of Upstream - Veron. Mother HD D-3/3, son also not 100% healthy is HD B(1/1). Brother is Vaya Kiba and is HD C(1/2). One brother Voice is health HD-A but has elbow dysplasia (you read it:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11576). Veron is not controled for elbows. Maybe also with problems? We not know.
And we will have many litter of this dog with HD D-3/3 mother in Poland. Check it by you:
http://www.wolfdog.org/pol/litters/1061.html
http://www.wolfdog.org/pol/litters/1138.html
http://www.wolfdog.org/pol/litters/1139.html
Three litter and puppies will not be sterylized but will be for breeding! Other kennel "Wilk z Polskiego dworu" plan use Unkas - son of Upstream. Same problem - big problem in Czech because of wrong moving of this dog. Read here
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10460. And because breeder of Jantarowa wataha say to all breeders to use puppies of Upstream I think she will use such dog too.
And it is genetics because Upstream is daughter of Aron Maly bysterec and it is dog who give many bad moving dogs and many problems with dysplasia. Mirka wrote about it 2 years ago:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...6&postcount=21 Some generation changed but problem in same line is still same: bad moving and bad results - worser as by other.
In Poland we have only 7, maybe 8 litters in one year. You see 5 litters of dogs with such very wrong hip results in genes who are out of such wrong line is more as 50% of new puppies in Poland. Because of use of one Czech female - Upstream where breeder is not responsible - whole breeding in Poland is dangered now. Now all people speak about Anna but she is resonsible because puppies will go not for breeding. But nobody of you speak about other breeders who sell line of female with HD D as very healthy puppies.
And it is not problem only in Poland. In Czech Republic breeders use the same wrong dogs and in Holland too. In France I see litters of Velaskes - his mother is HD D-3/3 and he has many puppies but no results if he is not with dysplasia. Same problem in Italy - I see many litter of Will Passo del Lupo. Son of Upstream too. Many puppies with dog HD D-3/3 in pedigree.
It is many many litters of worng pedigree because of such many wrong breeders. And nobody of you not speak about it!