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Originally Posted by wolfin
2.3.4.5.7. about this you mass speak with me personal trainer  
regards
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I am not Michael, who is away at work for this week, but I think you should be able to explain such things yourself when you use an electric collar or you shouldn´t use it because you are not qualified for it. You use it yourself so you should also be able to explain why by yourself and you should have
very good reasons why there is no other way of training. Otherwise it is a case of abuse and extreme psychological violance against the dog no matter if you use it during bonitation or not.
Being thrown on the back and held down is something that is element of social interactions in wolves and dogs. Something I can show you easily in our wolf or dog pack, though it shouldn´t be used in regular terms from unexperienced owners. Being shocked by an electric collar is not and therefor not understandable for the dog within the social context and training is something in a social context.
But anyway this is nothing that should be discussed any longer in a topic about differences in Bonitations. I agree with you on that one point.
Ina